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    Quote Originally Posted by jobucats View Post
    This version is quite interesting to me because it appears to be faster and in a different key than the versions I have in my music library. This UK version is in the key of B as opposed to what I am familiar with [[key of Bb). Just that slight difference in the key and the tempo, which may be a result of the audio medium being used, is rather pleasant to my ears. This reminds me of the different versions of Diana Ross' "Behind Closed Doors" in which one version seems to be just a mechanically 'speeded' up version of another version.
    I have both stereo mixes and the mono single mix on vinyl and the key is the same on all of them.

    To clarify what I previously wrote, in the mono single and on the stereo mix from the original vinyl British Motown Chartbusters LP, the annoying-to-me horn figure is omitted from the track, i.e. faded down, apart from the where the chorus that ends with an extra "each" is on the newer stereo remix. In that part of the track on the original mix, the lead vocal is omitted, i.e. faded down, and the annoying-to-my horn figure is faded up to give us an instrumental break of sorts. No edit, just different mixing decisions.

    This will become clear if one listens to the mono single mix and the 1968 British Motown Chartbusters LP track.

    The CD re-issue of the Chartbusters album uses the newer mix, however. I first came upon this newer mix on the Tops' Great Hits Volume 2 vinyl album and wonder whether or not the track was remixed for that album.

    I'm thinking that it's a newer mix because of the way that it sounds, and because - in 1969-70 - Motown started to create new stereo mixes of some previously recorded tracks such as "Never Had A Dream Come True" and "My Cherie Amour" by Stevie Wonder, giving us two distinct stereo mixes of each.

    It might be that Motown created stereo mixes when the tracks were first recorded and put in the can, and then created new stereo mixes when the tracks were taken out of the can for issuing on single and subsequently on album.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotosound View Post
    I have both stereo mixes and the mono single mix on vinyl and the key is the same on all of them.
    The version shared above by mysterysinger was accompanied by the phrase "This was the version used on the original UK stereo issues of the Four Tops "Greatest Hits" and "British Motown Chartbusters Volume 2". I don't know if he shared the vinyl version or the digital version. It's in the key of B. It is slightly faster in tempo than the 3 digital versions of the Motown released CDs I have which are all in the key of Bb. It is faster than the versions one may find on YouTube which are attributed to certain albums.

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    When I get the chance, I'll physically compare speeds as I have those two albums on Tamla Motown as well as a single re-issue on Tamla Motown and an original US single plus that US Greatest Hits Volume 2 that I mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotosound View Post
    When I get the chance, I'll physically compare speeds as I have those two albums on Tamla Motown as well as a single re-issue on Tamla Motown and an original US single plus that US Greatest Hits Volume 2 that I mentioned.
    It could be an "apple and oranges" phenomena comparing the output as issued on vinyl or digital. Who knows? My initial comment regarding the differences was based on what results I was getting comparing my digital versions [[from the cds and from purchasing online) to the link that was posted above. I used a pitch device to draw my conclusions. Thanks!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jobucats View Post
    It could be an "apple and oranges" phenomena comparing the output as issued on vinyl or digital. Who knows? My initial comment regarding the differences was based on what results I was getting comparing my digital versions [[from the cds and from purchasing online) to the link that was posted above. I used a pitch device to draw my conclusions. Thanks!!!!
    We have to bear in mind that the Youtube post is taken from an analogue source, and I suspect that the pitch wasn't changed by digitisation.

    My comparison will initially be all-analogue, followed by a cross-check with digital.

    My pitch device consists of two cranial transducers feeding an organic CPU.
    Last edited by Sotosound; 12-11-2023 at 03:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotosound View Post
    We have to bear in mind that the Youtube post is taken from an analogue source, and I suspect that the pitch wasn't changed by digitisation.

    My comparison will initially be all-analogue, followed by a cross-check with digital.

    My pitch device consists of two cranial transducers feeding an organic CPU.
    So... all of my own copies in mono and stereo across both analogue and digital domains broadly share the same pitch, and that YouTube version therefore sticks out like a sore thumb, being much, much faster.

    The big check was to compare the versions on the mono and stereo vinyl Chartbusters, and the pitch was the same for both mixes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotosound View Post
    So... all of my own copies in mono and stereo across both analogue and digital domains broadly share the same pitch, and that YouTube version therefore sticks out like a sore thumb, being much, much faster.

    The big check was to compare the versions on the mono and stereo vinyl Chartbusters, and the pitch was the same for both mixes.
    Thank you for doing all of that work. My ears weren't deceiving me after all.

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