Rhianna Ties The Supremes

[jobeterob]

There's a shiny new No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100, as Rihanna's "Diamonds" rises 2-1. The song dethrones Maroon 5's "One More Night" [[1-2) after a nine-week reign.

With her 12th Hot 100 topper, Rihanna ties Madonna and the Supremes for the fourth-most leaders in the chart's 54-year history. [[The Supremes' sum does not include Diana Ross' six solo No. 1s.) Only the Beatles [[20), Mariah Carey [[18) and Michael Jackson [[13; also not counting the Jackson 5's four No. 1s) have sent more titles to the top of the Hot 100.

Here is a recap of Rihanna's dozen dominators on the Hot 100:
2006, "SOS" [[three weeks at No. 1)
2007," Umbrella," featuring Jay-Z [[seven)
2008, "Take a Bow" [[one)
2008, "Disturbia" [[two)
2008, "Live Your Life" [[T.I. featuring Rihanna) [[six)
2010, "Rude Boy" [[five)
2010, "Love the Way You Lie" [[Eminem featuring Rihanna) [[seven)
2010, "What's My Name?," featuring Drake [[one)
2010, "Only Girl [[In the World)" [[one)
2011, "S&M," featuring Britney Spears [[one)
2011, "We Found Love," featuring Calvin Harris [[10)
2012, "Diamonds" [[one to date)

Having first led the Hot 100 the week of May 13, 2006, with "SOS," Rihanna passes Carey as the female artist to reach 12 No. 1s the fastest. Rihanna's six-year, seven-month span between her first and 12th leaders bests Carey's seven-year, one-month, two-week stretch. Among all acts, only the Beatles [[a rapid-fire, Beatlemania-fueled two years, four months and three weeks) and the Supremes [[five years, four months) reached the milestone more quickly.

"Diamonds" introduces Rihanna's seventh studio set, "Unapologetic," released yesterday. While she has now banked 12 Hot 100 No. 1s, she's yet to top the Billboard 200 album chart. Stay tuned to Billboard.com for projections on whether "Unapologetic" could grant Rihanna her first Billboard 200 No. 1 next week.

[blueskies]

Pretty sad for someone who can't really sing and relies on g-strings and bump and grinds. I guess I'm showing my age.

[marv2]

no what's really sad is that I can only name one of her songs, "Umbrella". I did not know she had other hits. LOL!

[Shevencly]

Pretty sad for someone who can't really sing and relies on g-strings and bump and grinds. I guess I'm showing my age.

As Walter Matthau once said of Barbra Streisand, Rhianna has all the talent of a butterfly's fart!
I remember seeing a clip of Rhianna on a show [[one of those 'before they were famous' type things) and she was as tuneful as something that's not tuneful at all. Just goes to show what hype, image and tinkering with recorded vocals can do.

[R. Mark Desjardins]

One consideration of achieving a "number one" record today is that is doesn't have to sell a million copies as in years gone by.

[blueskies]

no what's really sad is that I can only name one of her songs, "Umbrella". I did not know she had other hits. LOL!

You're a few steps ahead of me, Marv!

[marv2]

You're a few steps ahead of me, Marv!

Oh now that's terrible. I'm sure Rhianna has talent somewhere deep , deep, DEEP inside, hehehehehehe.........

[skooldem1]

"We found love" is a great song and was played everywhere. Every radio station and every club played it.

[skooldem1]

Records are made to be broken.

[jeff9nyc]

This is sad. And to tell you the truth, I've never even heard "Umbrella," let alone the other "hits" and don't feel like I'm missing anything. BTW - A number 1 song never had to sell a million copies. Sales are one thing. #1's are rated on "spins" or airplay back in the day...sometimes listener's responses if it was more local chart.

[milven]

records are made to be broken.

especialy 78 rpm records

[soulster]

Records are made to be broken.

Thank you! Times change. Records change. This doesn't bother me one bit. The world does not revolve around The Supremes or any of it's members.

And, Rihanna can sing about as well as Diana Ross.

[stingbeelee]

To me, this charting by Billboard is a joke. Did "love the way you lie" chart for both Eminem and Rihanna separately? Now 'featured on' means your hit also? Do they count the Dells on Barbara Lewis's records in the Dells charting positions or as a Dell's million seller? What about the Four Tops; do they count "My Baby Loves Me" as one of the Four Tops hits? Billboard states that because "colabos" are commonplace they decided to count them as any of the artist's on the recording as "their" records, but the Motown artists colaborated with each other all the time, so now shouldn't they count also on each others records?

[midnightman]

Records are made to be broken.

Yeah. And besides no other group besides the Beatles have more. They can't take that away from them. So it's whatever.

[Glenpwood]

Great accomplishment for Rihanna whether you care for her music or not. Since she is constantly churning out singles and albums like they did in the sixties and seventies it helps her strike rate of hits grow faster than her competion who tend to take time off between albums. Im sure Universals download profits from these multi million selling digital hits have funded a few Hip O Select Motown projects along the way.....

Billboard always credits an artist only if they made the label of the single or download. Its been pointed out that featuring was kept to a minimum since it affected royalty payouts in the sixties. The labels these days love features as a way to create excitement about acts and call them event records. No one would be complaining if IGMYLM by DRATS/Temps had managed to be a Billboard number one like it was in Cash Box and Record World...

[luke]

Do y'all think we weill be talking about Rhianna in 5 years?

[blueskies]

Do y'all think we weill be talking about Rhianna in 5 years?

.......let alone 50 years!

[Penny]

.......let alone 50 years!

Blueskies, you are so right. I doubt anyone will know who she is in 50 years let alone have her gowns on display or playing private gigs for big bucks.

I'm not even going to try and sell her any AVON!

Happy Thanksgiving to you and everyone here at Soulful Detroit.

Penny

[Kamasu_Jr]

Thank you! Times change. Records change. This doesn't bother me one bit. The world does not revolve around The Supremes or any of it's members.

And, Rihanna can sing about as well as Diana Ross.

I agree. Good for Rihanna. There are other, more important things...

[soulster]

Do y'all think we weill be talking about Rhianna in 5 years?

yes, and she'll be selling more music. She'll probably branch out into acting too, if she hasn't already.

[jobeterob]

I think Rhianna has made a mark as well.

I know few of her songs but it seems she has moved into the realm of Diana, Aretha, Whitney, Beyonce, Alicia.

She is a major artist with a huge catalogue.

[jobeterob]

Billboard 200 | Week of December 01, 2012 Positions 1-20 of 200
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[marv2]

I think Rhianna has made a mark as well.

I know few of her songs but it seems she has moved into the realm of Diana, Aretha, Whitney, Beyonce, Alicia.

She is a major artist with a huge catalogue.

That's nice. hehehehehehe........

[jobeterob]

But it would be oh so much nicer for you if Mary Wilson had a #1 hit or at least one solo hit! hehehehe.

But Mary's good with it; and she let go of fans like you a few years ago.

[luke]

Are you serious-Rhianna in the same realm as Aretha?? Surely you jest-????

[soulster]

Are you serious-Rhianna in the same realm as Aretha?? Surely you jest-????

No, but she's in the same realm as your beloved Diana Ross. Shine bright like a diamond!

[marv2]

But it would be oh so much nicer for you if Mary Wilson had a #1 hit or at least one solo hit! hehehehe.

But Mary's good with it; and she let go of fans like you a few years ago.

It's 2012 I'm not a teenager anymore, nor is Mary Wilson. I am not interested in having number one hits. Mary can never let me go.........hehehehehe.

[marv2]

Are you serious-Rhianna in the same realm as Aretha?? Surely you jest-????

He doesn't jest. He really believes that shit.

[soulster]

What is not being mentioned is that The Supremes had already been tied with Madonna. And, that's just for the females. Don't forget The Beatles.

[jobeterob]

What is not being mentioned is that The Supremes had already been tied with Madonna. And, that's just for the females. Don't forget The Beatles.

Nor Diana's 19th #1, the voice behind Mo Money More Problems, from which she made a fortune.

[marv2]

Nor Diana's 19th #1, the voice behind Mo Money More Problems, from which she made a fortune.

Diane Ross did not write or produce that or any other song. She is like any other "singer". She got performance royalties....that's all~!

[soulster]

Diane Ross did not write or produce that or any other song. She is like any other "singer". She got performance royalties....that's all~!

Wrong. She did produce her first two albums "Why Do Fools Fall In Love" and "Silk Electric" on Ross Records/RCA.

[marv2]

Wrong. She did produce her first two albums "Why Do Fools Fall In Love" and "Silk Electric" on Ross Records/RCA.

Ok my bad. Those are not the albums/songs that made her famous and I doubt that those two albums are selling huge quantities.

[luke]

I read she did not acutally produce those albums-others did. Or perhaps she co-produced to some degree.

[jobeterob]

Your sweet diane made a deal that made her a lot more money off Mo Money Mo Problems than the two of you and Mary put together will ever see in your lifetime! he he! lol!

[arrr&bee]

do y'all think we weill be talking about rhianna in 5 years?

i hope we're not talking about her in the next five minutes,and her forehead is so big i always thought that she was from another planet!!

[marv2]

I read she did not acutally produce those albums-others did. Or perhaps she co-produced to some degree.

She probably didn't do anything but paid for the studio time and the producers and then slapped her name on it as Executive Producer. Trying to teach Berry Gordy a lesson.

[marv2]

Your sweet diane made a deal that made her a lot more money off Mo Money Mo Problems than the two of you and Mary put together will ever see in your lifetime! he he! lol!

Nah that's not true. i have it on video tape. It was Berry Gordy that made the real money off that one as he owned the rights. Ask P. Diddy! He is joking with Berry about it in the video.

[marv2]

i hope we're not talking about her in the next five minutes,and her forehead is so big i always thought that she was from another planet!!

She does have a strange look. They cannot blame that forehead on Chris Brown
LOL!!!!

[helga]

Your sweet diane made a deal that made her a lot more money off Mo Money Mo Problems than the two of you and Mary put together will ever see in your lifetime! he he! lol!

Are you actually a professional? You come across as immature and childish.

[soulster]

Ok my bad. Those are not the albums/songs that made her famous and I doubt that those two albums are selling huge quantities.

You claim to be a Ross fan and aren't aware of the success of the "Why Do Fools Fall In Love" album? It was one of her biggest albums ever!

[kenneth]

I think the biggest pitfall in trying to compare artists like these, and their chart histories, is that back in the 60s, there were few "genre specific" radio stations. Top 40 was everywhere and included the Supremes, Dean Martin, Rolling Stones, Beatles, CCR, and on and on. A No. 1 hit back then had a much bigger impact than a No. 1 now. It was heard by everyone. Even Mary Wilson said in her second book that when the "new" Supremes would sing their latest top 10 hits like "Nathan Jones," it seemed people in the audience didn't know the tunes; pop radio was already changing quite rapidly.

A similar parallel is the difference between a 60s sitcom which was seen by 20 million people on an off night to one today which considers itself successful if it's seen by 5 million, thanks to the multitude of choices and channels.

Not to take anything away from Rihanna [[an artist who I'm only vaguely familiar with more from the news accounts about her troubles with Chris Brown than her music), but I can't imagine her music will have the kind of impact that the Sups' did, or the decades-long "shelf life."

[smark21]

We may not be talking about Rhianna 50 years from now as most of us will be dead, or very old and potentially in states of dementia. But she’s had enough hits that 50 years from now, people in their teens and 20s will hear her old songs and it will take them back to the time when they were young.

As for her chart feat, there is one caveat—some of them are duets or hip hop songs where she’s singing the hook. But she got the credit on the release and her name and voice were used to sell the song.

She’s not a great singer, but she has a hit factory team of producers behind her and her voice works for her hits. I like some of her songs like SOS, Umbrella, Disturbia and We Found Love.

[smark21]

As for Mo’ Money, Mo’ Problems, I would assume that Rodgers and Edwards received a greater cut of the royalty as they were the writers and producers of I’m Comin’ Out.

[marv2]

You claim to be a Ross fan and aren't aware of the success of the "Why Do Fools Fall In Love" album? It was one of her biggest albums ever!

You never heard /read me claim shit. Least of all being a Diane Ross fan. It is quite the opposite. I am not a fan!

[midnightman]

As for Mo’ Money, Mo’ Problems, I would assume that Rodgers and Edwards received a greater cut of the royalty as they were the writers and producers of I’m Comin’ Out.

Yeah they do get a good chunk from "Upside Down" and "I'm Coming Out" being sampled. They're still playing "Mo' Money" so I'm sure they still get a good paycheck from it. The check would've been better if the song returned to their respective publishing companies.

[midnightman]

By the way, a lot of the Motown albums pre-1980 didn't sell well, or if they did, they were undervalued due to Berry's policy of not letting the RIAA audit his album and single sales. Most artists when Diana was Rihanna's age sold on singles. So did Diana when she went solo though she did have some fine-selling albums [[the two self-titled "Diana Ross" albums, "Lady Sings the Blues", "Touch Me in the Morning" and "The Boss"). "diana" was her first album in Motown to be certified platinum while "The Boss" was the first to be certified gold while her best-selling albums, "Lady" and "Diana" each sold 3 million. "Why Do Fools" was definitely a big album, it did over one million albums. "Silk Electric" and "Swept Away" sold half a million.

[midnightman]

I think the biggest pitfall in trying to compare artists like these, and their chart histories, is that back in the 60s, there were few "genre specific" radio stations. Top 40 was everywhere and included the Supremes, Dean Martin, Rolling Stones, Beatles, CCR, and on and on. A No. 1 hit back then had a much bigger impact than a No. 1 now. It was heard by everyone. Even Mary Wilson said in her second book that when the "new" Supremes would sing their latest top 10 hits like "Nathan Jones," it seemed people in the audience didn't know the tunes; pop radio was already changing quite rapidly.

A similar parallel is the difference between a 60s sitcom which was seen by 20 million people on an off night to one today which considers itself successful if it's seen by 5 million, thanks to the multitude of choices and channels.

Not to take anything away from Rihanna [[an artist who I'm only vaguely familiar with more from the news accounts about her troubles with Chris Brown than her music), but I can't imagine her music will have the kind of impact that the Sups' did, or the decades-long "shelf life."

Today we live in a way different world than the world that existed when the Supremes were on top of the world. Some people here tend to forget about that though.

[midnightman]

What is not being mentioned is that The Supremes had already been tied with Madonna. And, that's just for the females. Don't forget The Beatles.

I remember the buzz about Madonna tying with the Supremes when "Music" hit number-one way back in 2000.

[jobeterob]

Good post Kenneth. The audiences for everything are so scattered these days that the impact is definitely lessened. Who knows if Rhianna will have a lasting impact. I only know here for the Chris Brown affair as well. But she seems to have an extensive body of work that has been successful. And she seems to have some sense of style and a look, both of which matter. Whether she has any brains is another matter; she may go the way of Barbra Streisand but she might go the way of Whitney Houston and she gives a lot of indications of the later.

A question about being professional and/or a professional. I suppose I am what you class "a professional" by occupation. It is irrelevant to how or what I post on here and how abrasive it can be. I am sure I am abrasive to Marv and Luke; they deserve it; they are routinely rude and ignorant to a soul music icon. Several people on here are quite pleased if I kick their ass from time to time. Many others abandoned SD because of them. So I make no apology for my reasoned ignorance from time to time.