Diana Ross Sales

[jobeterob]

The Rock Hall is so discredited and getting their ass kicked for the failure to induct black artists, female artists and black female artists that I think we are beginning to see them trying to rehabilitate themselves.

I’m no expert but didn’t they recently induct Whitney, Chaka and Pat Benatar? But they gotta get in all the white rock bands that had few hits but they feel influenced somebody or other.

[midnightman]

Compared to Aretha as a solo artist:

1968
Honored with the key of the city of Detroit on February 16, 1968, held as "Aretha Franklin Day"
Received the Drumbeat Honor from the SCLC and personally received it from Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. at Detroit's Cobo Hall

1981
Hollywood Walk of Fame

1986
Michigan Congress: voice declared the "greatest natural resource" to the state of Michigan

1987
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee
Guinness World Record: first woman inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

1991
Grammy Legend Award

1993
The Essence Awards: Essence Award for Lifetime Achievement

1994
Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award
Kennedy Center Honors [[at the time the youngest female recipient at 52, I don't know if she still holds the record?)

1997
NAACP Image Awards: Hall of Fame

1998
NAACP Image Award: Chairman's Award

1999
Grammy Hall of Fame: Amazing Grace, A Natural Woman [[You Make Me Feel Like)
National Arts Medal
Academy of Achievement: Golden Plate Award

2001
Grammy Hall of Fame: Chain of Fools

2002
National Recording Registry: "Respect"

2005
Presidential Medal of Freedom
UK Music Hall of Fame
Michigan Rock & Roll Legends Hall of Fame

2006
UNCF Award of Excellence

2007
Rock & Roll Hall of Fame: 500 Songs that Shaped Rock & Roll [["Respect", "Chain of Fools", "I Never Loved a Man [[The Way I Love You)"

2008
NARAS MusiCares Person of the Year
NAACP Image Awards: Vanguard Award

2009
Grammy Hall of Fame: I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You

2012
TV Land Awards: Musical Icon
Gospel Music Hall of Fame

2014
Grammy Hall of Fame: Respect

2015
Rhythm & Blues Hall of Fame [[singer)

2017
Had a Detroit street she was raised around renamed to Aretha Franklin way
Earned another key to the city two days after that

2018
Memphis Music Hall of Fame inductee

2019
Pulitzer Prize citation
Rhythm & Blues Hall of Fame [[songwriter)

2020
National Women's Hall of Fame

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Not to mention the total of 10 honorary doctorates between 1975-2014

So 47 honors from Aretha all by her lonesome versus Diana's 32 [[with about 21 going to her solo).

Then we have Whitney's who probably dwarfed them both:

1986
Key to the City of Newark, "Whitney Houston Day" in Newark, NJ [[April 25, 1986)

1987
Guinness World Record for the world's best-selling album by a female artist of all time [["Whitney Houston")
Guinness World Record for the best-selling debut album of all time [["Whitney Houston")

1988
Grambling State University: Doctorate of Human Letters

1990
Essence Awards: The Essence Award for the Performing Arts
Songwriters Hall of Fame: Howie Richmond Hitmaker Award
UNCF Frederick Patterson Award for philanthropy [[sending money to HBCUs)

1994
American Music Awards: Award of Merit

Billboard Music Awards:
Special Award for Most Weeks at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 [["I Will Always Love You")
Special Award for Most Weeks at No. 1 on the Billboard 200 [["I Will Always Love You")

Guinness World Records:
Most weeks at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100
Most Billboard Music Awards won in one night

National Association of Black Owned Broadcasters: Entertainer of the Year

NAACP Image Awards: Entertainer of the Year

Soul Train Music Awards: Sammy Davis Jr. Entertainer of the Year

World Music Awards:
World's Best-Selling Overall Recording Artist
World's Best-Selling Female Recording Artist of the Era

1995
Soul Train Hall of Fame
VH1 Honors

1996
BET Walk of Fame inductee [[first female recipient)
Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Hall of Fame

1997
Dove Music Award: Outstanding Mainstream Contribution to Gospel Music
Essence Awards: The Triumphant Spirit Award

1998
Soul Train Music Award: Quincy Jones Award for Career Achievement
The Trumpet Pinnacle Award [[award honoring black notables who achieved success and inspired others)

1999
RIAA Century Award for Best-Selling Female R&B Artist of the 20th Century [[49-51 million copies)
RIAA Century Award for Best-Selling Soundtrack of the 20th Century [["The Bodyguard", then 17 million copies)

2000
HMV Harlem Walk of Fame
Soul Train Music Award: Female Artist of the Decade

2001
BET Awards: BET Lifetime Achievement Award

2004
CCTV-MTV Award: Lifetime Achievement Award
Japan MTV Award: International Outstanding Achievement
Women's World Awards: World Arts Award for Lifetime Achievement
World Music Awards: The Legend Award

2006
New Jersey Walk of Fame induction

Guinness World Records:
Award citation for being the most awarded female recording artist with over 400+ awards at the time
Most consecutive weeks at No. 1 on the UK pop chart [["I Will Always Love You")
Most consecutive weeks at No. 1 on the US pop chart by a female artist [["I Will Always Love You")
Most cumulative weeks at No. 1 on the US pop chart by a solo female act [["I Will Always Love You")

2009
American Music Awards: International Artist Award

2010
BET Honors: Entertainers Award

2012
Billboard Music Awards: Millennium Award

ECHO Award Hall of Fame

Guinness World Records for the following:
Only artist to land seven consecutive US Billboard number one singles
First female artist to debut at No. 1 on the US Billboard pop album chart [["Whitney" in 1987)
Most searched of 2012
Best-selling US female single [["I Will Always Love You")
Best-selling soundtrack [["The Bodyguard")
Most cumulative weeks at No. 1 on the Billboard pop album chart by a female artist
Most simultaneous US albums on the Billboard pop chart by a female artist
Most simultaneous UK singles on the pop chart by a female artist
Most awarded female winner at the American Music Awards
Most World Music Awards in one night [[5)
Most number one cover songs
Most number one "triple crown" US [[pop, R&B and AC) songs
Best-selling female single of all time [["I Will Always Love You")
First recipient of the BET Lifetime Achievement Award

MTV Europe Music Awards: Global Icon Award

2013
Georgia Music Hall of Fame
Grammy Hall of Fame: "Whitney Houston"
National Rhythm & Blues Hall of Fame induction [[formally inducted in 2014)

2014
New Jersey Hall of Fame inductee

2015
Best-selling album by a woman [["The Bodyguard")

2017
East Orange Hall of Fame inductee

2018
Grammy Hall of Fame inductee: "I Will Always Love You"

2020
National Recording Registry: "I Will Always Love You"
Rock & Roll Hall of Fame inductee

2023
Guinness World Record: current highest-paid posthumous female celebrity

Whitney had at least 68 honors!

Also, I forgot to add this but both Whitney and Aretha have solo recordings on RIAA/NEA's Songs of the 20th Century. "Respect" was number 4, "I Will Always Love You" No. 108. The Supremes' "Stop! in the Name of Love" was sandwiched in between at No. 93. So I guess that adds to their piles.

But you get the idea.

[daviddh]

i have given up on the rock roll hall of fame personally. not sure how some artists are in while other , true icons are not inducted.

[midnightman]

Y'all have to understand that for years, politics heavily played into how some folks got in. But that's true for every establishment institution and award institutions. It's easy to dismiss it when your fave is not honored. I'm sure Diana isn't losing sleep over whether or not she'll get inducted as a solo artist in the RRHOF or not. I mean, it's stunning it took the Grammys as long as they did to give her and the Supremes a lifetime Grammy.

[jobeterob]

Jann Wenner caused enormous damage to the Hall of Fame that he was involved in starting.

As a result of the uproar, they already appear to be making some steps to not be identified as a racist, misogynist, corrupt, “buy your way in if you know the right male chauvinist pig” entity.

[daviddh]

Y'all have to understand that for years, politics heavily played into how some folks got in. But that's true for every establishment institution and award institutions. It's easy to dismiss it when your fave is not honored. I'm sure Diana isn't losing sleep over whether or not she'll get inducted as a solo artist in the RRHOF or not. I mean, it's stunning it took the Grammys as long as they did to give her and the Supremes a lifetime Grammy.

i agree , but when the RRHOF started, it seemed to be on track with inducting pioneers of Rock, but it seems that took a detour.
i stopped caring about it. actually , most of the award shows i have given up on

[jobeterob]

i agree , but when the RRHOF started, it seemed to be on track with inducting pioneers of Rock, but it seems that took a detour.
i stopped caring about it. actually , most of the award shows i have given up on

I think Cher recently said they could “f” themselves and she wasn’t going in now or ever - likely a well deserved award she gave them

I think lots of people feel like David - there are lots of inequities that develop over the years and generations and it makes these awards seem less important and valuable

The Grammys gave out very few awards initially and now they appear to give out hundreds

[midnightman]

i agree , but when the RRHOF started, it seemed to be on track with inducting pioneers of Rock, but it seems that took a detour.
i stopped caring about it. actually , most of the award shows i have given up on

Eh I've not given up on it. For every dud they induct, they induct a lot of worthy acts that needed to be there.