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    getTV - Smokey

    For those interested, getTV will be airing the 1970 "Smokey Robinson Special" on Monday, October 10th. Check your local listings.

    The Smokey Robinson Show

    1970 | Featuring The Supremes, The Temptations, And Stevie Wonder

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    This is great news. It is good to see that Get TV has added some new classic specials to their channel, as some of them have aired quite a few times. I just wonder how much of this show will be edited out. Commercial breaks weren't as long back then.
    Last edited by reese; 09-27-2016 at 01:39 PM.

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    Isn't it amazing for us who were young back then that although it's seems like yesterday to some of us,it was fourty six years ago...a great special a good year[1970].

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    Quote Originally Posted by marybrewster View Post
    For those interested, getTV will be airing the 1970 "Smokey Robinson Special" on Monday, October 10th. Check your local listings.

    The Smokey Robinson Show

    1970 | Featuring The Supremes, The Temptations, And Stevie Wonder
    Excellent! Great. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arr&bee View Post
    Isn't it amazing for us who were young back then that although it's seems like yesterday to some of us,it was fourty six years ago...a great special a good year[1970].
    You so right. I remember watching it when it originally aired not long before Christmas that year.

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    DirecTV doesn't have GetTV

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    Hey johnny,if you have one of those antenna's that you get from cvs,you can get-get tv[no pun intended]

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    Isn't this also on YouTube? I think it has the block letters in the middle but still good to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_raven View Post
    DirecTV doesn't have GetTV
    Dish TV does carry it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luciano View Post
    Isn't this also on YouTube? I think it has the block letters in the middle but still good to watch.
    But wouldn't it be great to see it in excellent quality without the tracking numbers and letter in the middle of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arr&bee View Post
    Hey johnny,if you have one of those antenna's that you get from cvs,you can get-get tv[no pun intended]

    Thanks for the tip!

    Wait! ... Antenna? What decade are we in? LOL

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    Hey johnny,i'm the comedian here[just messin wit cha]it's one of those new ones that you connect to the back of the tv,and it actually works too!!

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    I have to get a clear copy of this show! You hear me everyone ? LOL!

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    Yes we hear you Marv! LOL Your right as this is an excellent special.

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    Is there anyone planning on taping this special?

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    Anyone here get GetTV?

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    I get the channel, but my on-screen directory says:

    SMOKEY ROBINSON - Musical - A look at the singer-songwriter's career includes interviews with Motown founder Berry Gordy, Luther Vandross, Linda Ronstadt, Anita Baker, Terence Trent D'Arby and ABC.

    Does not mention a year, but I'd say it's from the late 80s or maybe early 90s? It doesn't indicate that this is the 1970 "Smokey Robinson Show" that we've been talking about here. I'd love to see the 1970 variety show air, but I have a feeling it may not be what we thought.

    MaryBrewster, where did you get your info that it was the 1970 special?

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    MaryB--scratch my question, I just went to the getTV website and THAT site describes the 1970 special. I'm going to record it just in case it really is the 1970 show. Anything is possible since the Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour has been airing weekdays at 5PM PT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danman869 View Post
    MaryB--scratch my question, I just went to the getTV website and THAT site describes the 1970 special. I'm going to record it just in case it really is the 1970 show. Anything is possible since the Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour has been airing weekdays at 5PM PT.
    Danman869 if you do tape it, I would love to get a copy. It is suppose air at 9pm EST so in just a few minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danman869 View Post
    I get the channel, but my on-screen directory says:

    SMOKEY ROBINSON - Musical - A look at the singer-songwriter's career includes interviews with Motown founder Berry Gordy, Luther Vandross, Linda Ronstadt, Anita Baker, Terence Trent D'Arby and ABC.

    Does not mention a year, but I'd say it's from the late 80s or maybe early 90s? It doesn't indicate that this is the 1970 "Smokey Robinson Show" that we've been talking about here. I'd love to see the 1970 variety show air, but I have a feeling it may not be what we thought.

    MaryBrewster, where did you get your info that it was the 1970 special?
    I checked the website too and describes the 1970 Tv special.

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    Yes, it's the 1970 special. Doesn't look as crisp as I would've hoped, but... as we've said, it's good to have/see it without a timing bar in the middle of the screen.

    I don't even know if I'll be able to get it off my TiVo and onto my iMac, Marv. I'll let you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danman869 View Post
    Yes, it's the 1970 special. Doesn't look as crisp as I would've hoped, but... as we've said, it's good to have/see it without a timing bar in the middle of the screen.

    I don't even know if I'll be able to get it off my TiVo and onto my iMac, Marv. I'll let you know.
    Thank you Dan! Boy I wished I got GetTV! LOL!

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    I'm watching it now. Ironically everyone was in good voice...except Smokey. When he sang with Jean you could really hear he didn't sound good. His voice cracked during the medley of hits he did with the Miracles.

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    It's not a surprise that the show was edited for time [[more commercials in 2016!), but I just realized they edited out the dialogue amongst all the groups [[and the showing of Cindy Birdsong's baby picture!) before they sang the big medley of Smokey's songs in casual clothes sitting down on the set. It's too bad this can't be released on DVD or Blu-Ray. It's definitely colorful and entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danman869 View Post
    It's not a surprise that the show was edited for time [[more commercials in 2016!), but I just realized they edited out the dialogue amongst all the groups [[and the showing of Cindy Birdsong's baby picture!) before they sang the big medley of Smokey's songs in casual clothes sitting down on the set. It's too bad this can't be released on DVD or Blu-Ray. It's definitely colorful and entertaining.
    Well just to have a copy of it with out the big timing strip would be worth it. I remember watching it on television around a week or so before Christmas 1970. I asked my cousin and brother yesterday and they just can't remember it. It's been 46 years since it's been on television which I find amazing in itself. They never repeated it back in the 70s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marv2 View Post
    Well just to have a copy of it with out the big timing strip would be worth it. I remember watching it on television around a week or so before Christmas 1970. I asked my cousin and brother yesterday and they just can't remember it. It's been 46 years since it's been on television which I find amazing in itself. They never repeated it back in the 70s.
    You got that right, just to have copy of it is fantastic.

    This was a syndicated special back in 1970 and I was surprised to learn by the closing credits that it wasn't a Motown produced special. Because it was syndicated it aired different days and times throughout the country depending on the stations that purchased it. I believe that it did air over a like an 18 month period, so could have been repeated depending on the markets. I was living in St. Louis during that time and i think it aired in our area early in 1971. I remember when it did air, i got home to late to see the 1st half hour, so only saw the section with all of them sitting around and singing at the end.

    It was nice to see the whole show. As far it not looking as crisp, I think that is because you were looking at it on cable and the company was compressing that station further. I am watching it in Los Angeles on TWC/Charter Spectrum cable and it definitely was compressed further.

    I was happy to see that this special was not lip synching to the originals and were specially recorded for the special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greg jones View Post
    You got that right, just to have copy of it is fantastic.

    This was a syndicated special back in 1970 and I was surprised to learn by the closing credits that it wasn't a Motown produced special. Because it was syndicated it aired different days and times throughout the country depending on the stations that purchased it. I believe that it did air over a like an 18 month period, so could have been repeated depending on the markets. I was living in St. Louis during that time and i think it aired in our area early in 1971. I remember when it did air, i got home to late to see the 1st half hour, so only saw the section with all of them sitting around and singing at the end.

    It was nice to see the whole show. As far it not looking as crisp, I think that is because you were looking at it on cable and the company was compressing that station further. I am watching it in Los Angeles on TWC/Charter Spectrum cable and it definitely was compressed further.

    I was happy to see that this special was not lip synching to the originals and were specially recorded for the special.
    Greg, how was the audio? Was it good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marv2 View Post
    Greg, how was the audio? Was it good?
    The audio was great, but of course, mono!

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    Hmmm... Looks like i was wrong on one thing. It was a network special on ABC and aired Dec 18, 1970. When i saw it in 1971, it was late at night around 11:30pm and on an independent station in St. Louis. Now it might be that the local ABC station in St. Louis declined to air it in the original slot. Or could have been syndicated afterwards.

    The other that is interesting is that Berry Gordy's name is nowhere in the credits. The copyright at the end is missing, but the Screen Gems logo comes up. So not sure who owns this special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greg jones View Post
    Hmmm... Looks like i was wrong on one thing. It was a network special on ABC and aired Dec 18, 1970. When i saw it in 1971, it was late at night around 11:30pm and on an independent station in St. Louis. Now it might be that the local ABC station in St. Louis declined to air it in the original slot. Or could have been syndicated afterwards.

    The other that is interesting is that Berry Gordy's name is nowhere in the credits. The copyright at the end is missing, but the Screen Gems logo comes up. So not sure who owns this special.
    I have a copy that has the timing strip. They had some major sponsors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greg jones View Post
    As far it not looking as crisp, I think that is because you were looking at it on cable and the company was compressing that station further. I am watching it in Los Angeles on TWC/Charter Spectrum cable and it definitely was compressed further.

    I was happy to see that this special was not lip synching to the originals and were specially recorded for the special.
    Greg, I was watching it on Frontier FiOS down in Long Beach, CA, and you have a good point about compression. It definitely isn't an HD channel [[GetTV) either, so that isn't there to help. I could live with the compression if only they hadn't edited it for more 2016 commercials. That's a disappointment! It'd be great if this were somehow able to be released on DVD/Blu-Ray. Someone obviously has the original master copy if it was available to be aired on Get.

    I agree about the performances all being recorded [[and/or performed live) for the special. Sometimes the lead singer had a mic to sing live to [[presumably) pre-recorded backup vocals and track, but other times they were all lip-syncing.

    My one question is why was Fran Jeffries on this show? I know she was a [[capable) singer, but it sort of throws off the Motown "family" concept. If only Brenda Holloway had still been with Motown in 1970, I bet she would've been the solo female artist on the show doing Fran's part!

    OH! And amongst Stevie Wonder's large collective of Wonderlove onstage with him at one point, I was pretty sure I saw Syreeta standing towards the right of the "Love-line"! I also thought it was Sherlie Matthews standing on the far left. Anyone able to identify all those ladies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by danman869 View Post

    OH! And amongst Stevie Wonder's large collective of Wonderlove onstage with him at one point, I was pretty sure I saw Syreeta standing towards the right of the "Love-line"! I also thought it was Sherlie Matthews standing on the far left. Anyone able to identify all those ladies?
    I can't identify them all. But in addition to the women you listed, I also saw Venetta Fields, Gloria Jones, and Clydie King.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danman869 View Post
    Greg, I was watching it on Frontier FiOS down in Long Beach, CA, and you have a good point about compression. It definitely isn't an HD channel [[GetTV) either, so that isn't there to help. I could live with the compression if only they hadn't edited it for more 2016 commercials. That's a disappointment! It'd be great if this were somehow able to be released on DVD/Blu-Ray. Someone obviously has the original master copy if it was available to be aired on Get.

    I agree about the performances all being recorded [[and/or performed live) for the special. Sometimes the lead singer had a mic to sing live to [[presumably) pre-recorded backup vocals and track, but other times they were all lip-syncing.

    My one question is why was Fran Jeffries on this show? I know she was a [[capable) singer, but it sort of throws off the Motown "family" concept. If only Brenda Holloway had still been with Motown in 1970, I bet she would've been the solo female artist on the show doing Fran's part!

    OH! And amongst Stevie Wonder's large collective of Wonderlove onstage with him at one point, I was pretty sure I saw Syreeta standing towards the right of the "Love-line"! I also thought it was Sherlie Matthews standing on the far left. Anyone able to identify all those ladies?
    Regarding Fran Jeffries. She was there for the same reasons Motown had Adam Ant on Motown 25 and Kaye Stevens on the Temptations Special. To widen the demographics of the audience. That was their thinking I am sure of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danman869 View Post
    Greg, I was watching it on Frontier FiOS down in Long Beach, CA, and you have a good point about compression. It definitely isn't an HD channel [[GetTV) either, so that isn't there to help. I could live with the compression if only they hadn't edited it for more 2016 commercials. That's a disappointment! It'd be great if this were somehow able to be released on DVD/Blu-Ray. Someone obviously has the original master copy if it was available to be aired on Get.

    I agree about the performances all being recorded [[and/or performed live) for the special. Sometimes the lead singer had a mic to sing live to [[presumably) pre-recorded backup vocals and track, but other times they were all lip-syncing.

    My one question is why was Fran Jeffries on this show? I know she was a [[capable) singer, but it sort of throws off the Motown "family" concept. If only Brenda Holloway had still been with Motown in 1970, I bet she would've been the solo female artist on the show doing Fran's part!

    OH! And amongst Stevie Wonder's large collective of Wonderlove onstage with him at one point, I was pretty sure I saw Syreeta standing towards the right of the "Love-line"! I also thought it was Sherlie Matthews standing on the far left. Anyone able to identify all those ladies?
    danman, i'm sure it wasn't GetTV that compressed the video, it was the cable or Fios providers. We get many other sub channels here on TWC, like AntennaTV, and those are NOT compressed. I discovered it because the programmes leading in and following it were also compressed. They do that to get more channels in and do it the stations that are probably watched the least. I would have loved to be check via regular antenna.

    As far as Fran Jeffries, I'll just bet that it was ABC that requested someone outside Motown. Probably not specifically Fran, but allowed them to partially choose.

    i, too, wished they would have edited it. But they have to pay for programmes. I'm just happy to see that some Variety shows and specials are getting re-aired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danman869 View Post
    Greg,........ It'd be great if this were somehow able to be released on DVD/Blu-Ray. Someone obviously has the original master copy if it was available to be aired on Get......
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    Quote Originally Posted by carole cucumber View Post
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    Carole, imdb database shows that the production companies were: Jackie Barnett Productions [[exec producer), Motown Productions and Screen Gems. Screen Gems is, of course, owned by Sony/Columbia Pictures. Motown Productions was sold by Mr. Gordy to Suzanne DePasse and is now called West Grand Media, if I'm not mistaken. Not sure who owns Jackie Barnett Prods. Since GetTV is owned by Sony/Columbia/ScreenGems that was a big leg up on getting permission to air.

    Besides those obstacles in getting a DVD is the contracts of the musicians who did the soundtrack. That is one of the main reasons that Variety Shows don't get re-aired much. The residuals that the musicians get are very expensive, if their original contracts even ALLOW it to be re-issued or re-aired at all. Contract negotiations on Live Audio is a different animal all together! Many times they have to be re-negotiated with the musicians. The more people involved, the more chances that some have passed on and trying to get everyone's approval is nearly impossible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greg jones View Post
    Carole, imdb database shows that the production companies were: Jackie Barnett Productions [[exec producer), Motown Productions and Screen Gems. Screen Gems is, of course, owned by Sony/Columbia Pictures. Motown Productions was sold by Mr. Gordy to Suzanne DePasse and is now called West Grand Media, if I'm not mistaken. Not sure who owns Jackie Barnett Prods. Since GetTV is owned by Sony/Columbia/ScreenGems that was a big leg up on getting permission to air.

    Besides those obstacles in getting a DVD is the contracts of the musicians who did the soundtrack. That is one of the main reasons that Variety Shows don't get re-aired much. The residuals that the musicians get are very expensive, if their original contracts even ALLOW it to be re-issued or re-aired at all. Contract negotiations on Live Audio is a different animal all together! Many times they have to be re-negotiated with the musicians. The more people involved, the more chances that some have passed on and trying to get everyone's approval is nearly impossible.
    Did you record it Greg. Did they keep all of the songs in from the original broadcast?

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    Fran Jeffries was on the show because Gordy had either signed her and did nothing or was considering signing her, I can't recall which. The TV special on GET was heavily butchered. Gone is Jeffries number, the dialogue before the Smokey Medley and Smokey's closing solo number.

    This show was filmed four or five months before it aired just before Christmas 1970. Tears of A Clown had not yet been issued here as a single. It explains why the Miracles didn't perform it, why the Supremes didn't do Stoned Love or why Stevie didn't do Heaven Help Us All.

    This was supposed to be Smokey's send off into a solo career much as the TV specials for Diana were designed to showcase her for solo success. Unfortunately the special was not a ratings success, airing on the third rated ABC network. Clearly Robinson was uncomfortable with dialogue and just didn't have the charisma to carry the show as host. He was not in good voice either. Because Tears Of A Clown came out as a massive hit just before the airing of this show, Gordy had Robinson stay on with the Miracles for another couple years even though he didn't want to.

    It's speculative if Pete Moore was really injured and couldn't do the show. There were ways around that type of thing. Robinson wrote in his bio that he was having trouble with Pete over royalties and none of the guys were happy about Smokey leaving.

    Jean Terrell was in fine voice. She looked great as well. The lineup of Jean, Mary and Cindy was such an attractive group of women who had so much potential. Cindy had slimmed down and was gorgeous. Don't you love her leading on the brief snippet of Don't Mess With Bill? My only complaint with this appearance is the use of the familiar Diana Ross gowns. Mary's wearing Diana's green gown during Ladder threw the look off. Jean squeezed into Diana's gold pants while Mary and Cindy wore their red, but those bows were horrific.

    Stevie was frenetic as ever but this is one of the best live versions of Signed, Sealed Delivered that he did. I think Syreeta was one of the girls to his left that got no camera time.

    Temptations stole the show and got a standing ovation. Eddie was not on key for the beginning of Get Ready but still they were an awesome act.

    All in all, it's a good show that needs to get a DVD release.

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    I wonder why they did not use the Jackson Five on the special.

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    The Jackson 5 and Diana Ross were far too hot to get second billing to anyone. I think instead of Jeffries, Gladys and the Pips should have been on that show

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    Kiki Dee would have made more sense.

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    marv2, yes i did dvr part of it. unfortunately we had some power issues in the area and i didn't get the whole thing.

    BayouMotownMan, thanx for the info on Fran Jeffries, that's very interesting. It is amazing how many entertainers that had success other places were signed by Motown that Berry never got hits out of while he had them.

    Yes, I heartily agree with You, that the specials, TCB, On Broadway and Goin' Back To Indiana in addition to this Smokey Special need DVD Release.

    Do you why George Schlatter wasn't used to Produce as he did with the other Motown Production Specials ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greg jones View Post
    marv2, yes i did dvr part of it. unfortunately we had some power issues in the area and i didn't get the whole thing.

    BayouMotownMan, thanx for the info on Fran Jeffries, that's very interesting. It is amazing how many entertainers that had success other places were signed by Motown that Berry never got hits out of while he had them.

    Yes, I heartily agree with You, that the specials, TCB, On Broadway and Goin' Back To Indiana in addition to this Smokey Special need DVD Release.

    Do you why George Schlatter wasn't used to Produce as he did with the other Motown Production Specials ?

    I wonder if they are going to repeat it again throughout the month. I don't get GetTV on my cable system so I am not familiar with the network. I love to have a copy of the show by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marv2 View Post
    Anyone here get GetTV?
    YEP I [GET]IT.HEHEHE...MY WIFE BOUGHT IT...[heck the aluminum foil I use in the shed works for me]BUT I ENJOY IT CAUSE I CAN GET SOME WESTERNS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arr&bee View Post
    YEP I [GET]IT.HEHEHE...MY WIFE BOUGHT IT...[heck the aluminum foil I use in the shed works for me]BUT I ENJOY IT CAUSE I CAN GET SOME WESTERNS.
    We have a channel that shows a lot of the old TV Westerns called "Antenna TV".

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    Got that one too!!

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    Bump: Fran Jeffries has died at age 79:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/20/mo...uaries&action=

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    May she rest in peace. Wow didn't know Zoe was her granddaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luciano View Post
    May she rest in peace. Wow didn't know Zoe was her granddaughter.
    I'm not familiar with her granddaughter. Should I be?

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    I really enjoyed her on the TV Special. She was very talented. Rest in peace Fran.......thank you~!

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