Wrong Lead Single - Ross lps

**Albator** · 07-23-2016, 07:26 AM

I just realize that her last four RCA albums are not even silver in the UK. Interestingly, even helped by a super hit like "chain reaction" , Eaten alive didn't sell.

**daviddh** · 07-23-2016, 09:17 AM

Eatin Alive sold 3 million through out europe

**daviddh** · 07-23-2016, 11:52 AM

Totally agree Thomm. Things turn out they say they are supposed to sometimes.
I also love these vaulted tracks.it's like finding treasures. On her Everything is CD deluxe there is a song called. What Are You Doing The Rest Of Your Life. What a beautiful vocal.omg.when I first got it I listened to this over and over. I was floored that this gem was left in the vaults. Wtf. Sorry.but to good to be lost.
And yet when Ross78 was released we got some retreads??? Makes no sense to me. Where was creative control on this.
Looking forward to Ross 78 one day

**JohnnyB** · 07-23-2016, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by daviddh

Totally agree Thomm. Things turn out they say they are supposed to sometimes.
I also love these vaulted tracks.it's like finding treasures. On her Everything is CD deluxe there is a song called. What Are You Doing The Rest Of Your Life. What a beautiful vocal.omg.when I first got it I listened to this over and over. I was floored that this gem was left in the vaults. Wtf. Sorry.but to good to be lost.
And yet when Ross78 was released we got some retreads??? Makes no sense to me. Where was creative control on this.
Looking forward to Ross 78 one day

David, I agree--Ross '78, what were they thinking? Individually the songs are fine, but as a collection? Three new disco tracks, 2 vaulted ballads and an additional new recording, the A and B side of a 4-year-old single that was not successful and a remix of a 7-year- old minor hit, while recent recordings collect dust in the vaults. SMH. Who could have possibly thought this was an appropriate follow up to Baby It's Me?

I, too, am looking forward to the expanded Ross '78, hoping to gain a little perspective.

**Bluebrock** · 07-23-2016, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

David, I agree--Ross '78, what were they thinking? Individually the songs are fine, but as a collection? Three new disco tracks, 2 vaulted ballads and an additional new recording, the A and B side of a 4-year-old single that was not successful and a remix of a 7-year- old minor hit, while recent recordings collect dust in the vaults. SMH. Who could have possibly thought this was an appropriate follow up to Baby It's Me?

I, too, am looking forward to the expanded Ross '78, hoping to gain a little perspective.

Totally agree with you guys. Ross78 was a musically satisfying album but why use old tracks when so much good stuff remained in the vault. Similar sentiments go for "to love again"

**Albator** · 07-23-2016, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by daviddh

Eatin Alive sold 3 million through out europe

there is a lack of evidence to support this important figure. I think that if it's over 500 000 worldwide, it's good.

**daviddh** · 07-23-2016, 04:54 PM

funny , my deluxe version of Ross 78 has all the tracks from side 1 of To Love Again.
again Diana needed us to proof her albums like Motown did in the 60s. we would have been a great team me thinks.
I remember reading BG didn't like Stoned Love and wouldn't release it but was out voted at quality control and it was released and became a hit.

**rovereab** · 07-24-2016, 05:52 AM

I fail to understand the rationale for different track selections and track lengths on albums. Surely we all want the same irrespective of where we live?

Does anybody know the rationale for this?

**daviddh** · 07-24-2016, 11:33 AM

never understood this. I know in the past they would edit a single down to 2.30 seconds for airplay so that songs such as Love Child and Up The Ladder To The Roof would get airplay, both of these songs had a verse removed, but nowadays, what difference does it make

**daviddh** · 07-25-2016, 11:14 PM

Why is there no Diana DVDs???

**Bluebrock** · 07-26-2016, 05:04 AM

Originally Posted by daviddh

Why is there no Diana DVDs???

Copy right issues in some cases, and Diana's reluctance in other cases.

**daviddh** · 07-26-2016, 06:49 AM

Thanks.frustrating.Streisand has all her TV specials on DVD.I think we have 2 Ross DVDs....would like to see her 71 special

**daviddh** · 07-26-2016, 09:51 AM

thinking out loud here but recently I saw ladies claiming to have xyz #1s but these other ladies are claiming #1 songs that have been at the top on various charts unlike DR who has had 6 solo #1 on Billboard. however , if you also count the songs that DR has on various charts that , at my recollection , gives her some solo 14 #1s. so if these other ladies, can count the other charted songs as number ones , why not Diana. and I'm Gonna Make You Love Me was number one on cashbox for 3 weeks and record world.hmmmm. me thinks Diana is still supreme.

**daviddh** · 08-01-2016, 01:17 AM

Bluebrock...any reason Diana doesn't contribute to the universal deluxe editions to her albums??

**Bluebrock** · 08-01-2016, 04:58 AM

Originally Posted by daviddh

Bluebrock...any reason Diana doesn't contribute to the universal deluxe editions to her albums??

To be honest David she does not seem that interested. I don't mean that in a bad way , it is just that she has reached that point in her life where she likes to sing on stage, but other than that she prefers to spend the rest of her time with her family. Whenever I have mentioned the expanded versions she has just said "that's nice" or "that's good" or "nice to hear" and very little else!

**sup_fan** · 08-01-2016, 02:56 PM

Back to Diana's singles

Do you think the Surrender project would have performed differently if the second single was Surrender instead of Reach out? I think the title track was a much more compelling song. and after the success of Remember Me, would have been a stronger follow up

Also, after It's My Turn, Motown released One More Chance in early 81, several months prior to Endless Love. Thoughts as to why this didn't succeed? there wasn't any competing Ross material. should they have gone with OMC to help promote the To Love Again project? or revert back to My Old Piano or Tenderness?

**reese** · 08-01-2016, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by sup_fan

Back to Diana's singles

Do you think the Surrender project would have performed differently if the second single was Surrender instead of Reach out? I think the title track was a much more compelling song. and after the success of Remember Me, would have been a stronger follow up

Also, after It's My Turn, Motown released One More Chance in early 81, several months prior to Endless Love. Thoughts as to why this didn't succeed? there wasn't any competing Ross material. should they have gone with OMC to help promote the To Love Again project? or revert back to My Old Piano or Tenderness?

Good one.

I think the SURRENDER album might have done better if it was released around the same time as REMEMBER ME. But the release schedule for Diana's records was out of whack. EVERYTHING IS EVERYTHING was released without the benefit of a single for many months. Yet singles like REMEMBER ME, and REACH OUT I'LL BE THERE were released without a parent album.

IMO, ONE MORE CHANCE is a very strong record. But I think the public wanted more of the Chic sound from Diana at that point. IT'S MY TURN was a big hit, because it was a great record, but also because if was following her huge Chic singles. My opinion is that they could have released a few more singles off the Chic album, but I think the success of IT'S MY TURN and Diana's impending departure might have thrown things off. Instead, they released ONE MORE CHANCE and then CRYIN' MY HEART OUT FOR YOU.

**sup_fan** · 08-01-2016, 03:46 PM

I agree that they should have done a Chic single in there. between It's My Turn, One More, Cryin and Endless Love, it was too many power ballads. IMO the two best ones where the hits. in regards to One More, I think the ending was a bit too much. too overwrought. Cryin is good but too little too late.

Too bad Motown couldn't get the rights to Dreaming Of You duet with Lionel.

I like the track My Old Piano but found the lyrics too corny. Tenderness is ok but a bit monotonous. even for chic lol. Have Fun Again might have been worked

**Ollie9** · 08-02-2016, 09:24 AM

[QUOTE=sup_fan;342658]I agree that they should have done a Chic single in there. between It's My Turn, One More, Cryin and Endless Love, it was too many power ballads. IMO the two best ones where the hits. in regards to One More, I think the ending was a bit too much. too overwrought. Cryin is good but too little too late.
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"Stay With Me" was the sure fire hit. "One More Chance" and "Cryin'" were just nice album tracks that never stood a hoot of a chance as singles. To be honest i think "After You" would have sold better than either one of those songs.
There were just so many more hits from the "diana" album to be had. "Now That You're Gone", "Have Fun" "Give Up" all had huge potential to do really well. The public fully embraced this funky new Diana but alas, she was leaving motown.

My own little question for you dear Bluebrock....Do you know anything more as to why "Naked At The Feast" never happened other than the tv movie version being made first?. Rumours of it about to go into production with various directors went on for years.

**Bluebrock** · 08-02-2016, 01:55 PM

[QUOTE=Ollie9;342730]

Originally Posted by sup_fan

I agree that they should have done a Chic single in there. between It's My Turn, One More, Cryin and Endless Love, it was too many power ballads. IMO the two best ones where the hits. in regards to One More, I think the ending was a bit too much. too overwrought. Cryin is good but too little too late.
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"Stay With Me" was the sure fire hit. "One More Chance" and "Cryin'" were just nice album tracks that never stood a hoot of a chance as singles. To be honest i think "After You" would have sold better than either one of those songs.
There were just so many more hits from the "diana" album to be had. "Now That You're Gone", "Have Fun" "Give Up" all had huge potential to do really well. The public fully embraced this funky new Diana but alas, she was leaving motown.

My own little question for you dear Bluebrock....Do you know anything more as to why "Naked At The Feast" never happened other than the tv movie version being made first?. Rumours of it about to go into production with various directors went on for years.

Diana wanted to play Josephine Baker so badly. She worked hard on the project spending lots of time and her own money on research. She even based herself in France to immerse herself in the role. She was devastated when the project fell through and talked at length about it for many years. I cannot divulge a confidence here but she did everything in her power to get the project off the ground, but was met with resistance at so many levels. I am not saying that Diana was totally blameless. She wasn't but certain people in the business moved heaven on earth to ensure this project would never get off the ground. Similar [[but less severe) problems occurred later when Diana was supposed to play a concentration camp inmate for a TV movie on ABC just after "out of darkness". I was with her at the time in the States [[one of only a handful of times that i worked with her in the States).

**Ollie9** · 08-03-2016, 05:28 AM

[QUOTE=Bluebrock;342752]

Originally Posted by Ollie9

Diana wanted to play Josephine Baker so badly. She worked hard on the project spending lots of time and her own money on research. She even based herself in France to immerse herself in the role. She was devastated when the project fell through and talked at length about it for many years. I cannot divulge a confidence here but she did everything in her power to get the project off the ground, but was met with resistance at so many levels. I am not saying that Diana was totally blameless. She wasn't but certain people in the business moved heaven on earth to ensure this project would never get off the ground. Similar [[but less severe) problems occurred later when Diana was supposed to play a concentration camp inmate for a TV movie on ABC just after "out of darkness". I was with her at the time in the States [[one of only a handful of times that i worked with her in the States).

I remember reading about the concentration camp survivor film. It was to be based on the life story of Valaida Snow. A beautiful and extrodinary woman who was a jazz vocalist, renowned trumpet player and also a conductor who led an all female jazz band. What a great film it would have made.
Getting back to "Naked At The Feast". Was it not true that Diana wanted complete control of the project and that is where the problems to get the film off the ground lay?.

**Bluebrock** · 08-03-2016, 02:44 PM

[QUOTE=Ollie9;342812]

Originally Posted by Bluebrock

I remember reading about the concentration camp survivor film. It was to be based on the life story of Valaida Snow. A beautiful and extrodinary woman who was a jazz vocalist, renowned trumpet player and also a conductor who led an all female jazz band. What a great film it would have made.
Getting back to "Naked At The Feast". Was it not true that Diana wanted complete control of the project and that is where the problems to get the film off the ground lay?.

Yes that is true Ollie. She wanted complete creative control. She wanted toichose the cast, director, office cat, and she wanted to produce the film herself. All this went down like a lead balloon , and despite the success of "out of darkness" the production never got off the ground. Diana was not a happy bunny i can tell you.

**greg jones** · 08-05-2016, 07:48 PM

[QUOTE=Bluebrock;342752]

Originally Posted by Ollie9

Diana wanted to play Josephine Baker so badly. She worked hard on the project spending lots of time and her own money on research. She even based herself in France to immerse herself in the role. She was devastated when the project fell through and talked at length about it for many years. I cannot divulge a confidence here but she did everything in her power to get the project off the ground, but was met with resistance at so many levels. I am not saying that Diana was totally blameless. She wasn't but certain people in the business moved heaven on earth to ensure this project would never get off the ground. Similar [[but less severe) problems occurred later when Diana was supposed to play a concentration camp inmate for a TV movie on ABC just after "out of darkness". I was with her at the time in the States [[one of only a handful of times that i worked with her in the States).

Bluerock...
I do remember hearing about Diana working on the Josephine Baker project. One question that I was never quite sure on though, was it intended to be a big screen picture or tv film ?

**florence** · 08-03-2016, 06:29 AM

[QUOTE=Ollie9;342730]

Originally Posted by sup_fan

I agree that they should have done a Chic single in there. between It's My Turn, One More, Cryin and Endless Love, it was too many power ballads. IMO the two best ones where the hits. in regards to One More, I think the ending was a bit too much. too overwrought. Cryin is good but too little too late.
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"Stay With Me" was the sure fire hit. "One More Chance" and "Cryin'" were just nice album tracks that never stood a hoot of a chance as singles. To be honest i think "After You" would have sold better than either one of those songs.
There were just so many more hits from the "diana" album to be had. "Now That You're Gone", "Have Fun" "Give Up" all had huge potential to do really well. The public fully embraced this funky new Diana but alas, she was leaving motown.

My own little question for you dear Bluebrock....Do you know anything more as to why "Naked At The Feast" never happened other than the tv movie version being made first?. Rumours of it about to go into production with various directors went on for years.

Couldn't agree more - Stay With Me was the standout track from To Love Again and somebody at EMI in the UK screwed up royally in not recognising this and releasing it as a single.

I respect Reese's opinion on One More Chance but for me and events would seem to back this up it was one of her worst ever singles second only to Eaten Alive - it was disjointed and a complete mess. No surprise it mostly flopped, Diana's name alone carried it into the top 50 in the UK.

Cryin' My Heart Out For You suffered in the wake of Chance - it was a good record with an excellent vocal from Diana and had it been the first single instead of Chance it would have done pretty well.

Things seemed to be in flux at Motown in the US after diana with her contract nearing expiry.

It's My Turn was a class song but because it followed quickly on the heels of Upside Down and I'm Coming Out and lingered on the charts [[and we've all heard the rumours behind this) any further success for diana tracks from diana was lost.

Had My Old Piano been released hot on the heels of the first two singles instead of a year and a half later when Diana was long gone and Motown not really interested in promoting her it would surely have shot up the charts.

**JohnnyB** · 08-03-2016, 08:41 AM

[QUOTE=florence;342815]

Originally Posted by Ollie9

Couldn't agree more - Stay With Me was the standout track from To Love Again and somebody at EMI in the UK screwed up royally in not recognising this and releasing it as a single.

I respect Reese's opinion on One More Chance but for me and events would seem to back this up it was one of her worst ever singles second only to Eaten Alive - it was disjointed and a complete mess. No surprise it mostly flopped, Diana's name alone carried it into the top 50 in the UK.

Cryin' My Heart Out For You suffered in the wake of Chance - it was a good record with an excellent vocal from Diana and had it been the first single instead of Chance it would have done pretty well.

Things seemed to be in flux at Motown in the US after diana with her contract nearing expiry.

It's My Turn was a class song but because it followed quickly on the heels of Upside Down and I'm Coming Out and lingered on the charts [[and we've all heard the rumours behind this) any further success for diana tracks from diana was lost.

Had My Old Piano been released hot on the heels of the first two singles instead of a year and a half later when Diana was long gone and Motown not really interested in promoting her it would surely have shot up the charts.

Florence, I guess I'm the only one who hasn't heard the rumors. What occurred during It's My Turn's time on the charts? I know it remained on the charts for quite a long while.

**reese** · 08-03-2016, 09:34 AM

[QUOTE=JohnnyB;342819]

Originally Posted by florence

Florence, I guess I'm the only one who hasn't heard the rumors. What occurred during It's My Turn's time on the charts? I know it remained on the charts for quite a long while.

In CALL HER MISS ROSS, it was written that Diana feeling she was lied to about the sales of IT'S MY TURN might have been the straw that broke the camel's back when it came to her decision to leave Motown. She assumed a top 10 single sold more than the 400,000 or so copies she was told it sold. The book went on to allege that Motown used its influence at Billboard magazine to keep the record in the top 10, while they were renegotiating with Diana.

**daviddh** · 08-01-2016, 10:03 PM

I liked My Old Piano but it didn't chart inside the top 100?? go figure. I also like now That your Gone. I think with Diana leaving motown , they didn't seem to know what to do. odd to me that with the Supremes they always seem to be on point but with Diana solo, not so much , Surrender and Baby Its Me suffered as a result. with EIE, the lp was rushed out with no single until a year later

**Jimi LaLumia** · 08-02-2016, 05:30 AM

Bluebrock any clues on why the briliant "TCB" NBC special remains unavailable on DVD or download?

**sansradio** · 08-02-2016, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by Jimi LaLumia

Bluebrock any clues on why the briliant "TCB" NBC special remains unavailable on DVD or download?

Great question. "On Broadway" as well.

**Bokiluis** · 08-02-2016, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by Jimi LaLumia

Bluebrock any clues on why the briliant "TCB" NBC special remains unavailable on DVD or download?

The standard response is that they both have multi-financiers and unable to come to a equitable decision on price.
On the more recent possibilities, it is said Diana is holding back approval. Her initial solo tour, "Live at Royal Albert Music Hall", the elements were set for print and at the last minute, it got pulled.
also "The More Today than Yesterday Tour 2011-" was supposedly filmed. Chudney tweeted that she was assembling elements for a home video and that never came to fruition.

**Bluebrock** · 08-02-2016, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Bokiluis

The standard response is that they both have multi-financiers and unable to come to a equitable decision on price.
On the more recent possibilities, it is said Diana is holding back approval. Her initial solo tour, "Live at Royal Albert Music Hall", the elements were set for print and at the last minute, it got pulled.
also "The More Today than Yesterday Tour 2011-" was supposedly filmed. Chudney tweeted that she was assembling elements for a home video and that never came to fruition.

I cannot add anything to that. Sorry, but i just don't know for
sure.

**sup_fan** · 08-02-2016, 03:12 PM

Bluebrock - interesting! i'd not heard of that concentration camp role. I thought I heard that Diana was signed to do 3 tv movies in the 90s. but we obviously only got 2

Also do you have any more insight into FBTP and the delays with the release? why was the timing of the release of the album and the major concert tour so out of whack?

**Bluebrock** · 08-02-2016, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by sup_fan

Bluebrock - interesting! i'd not heard of that concentration camp role. I thought I heard that Diana was signed to do 3 tv movies in the 90s. but we obviously only got 2

Also do you have any more insight into FBTP and the delays with the release? why was the timing of the release of the album and the major concert tour so out of whack?

We scheduled the release of it in the UK to coincide with her show stopping appearance on the Royal Variety Show. We had Diana with us for the best part of six weeks and she was eager to promote the album in the UK. We timed it perfectly! It was a joyous time and it was during this time that we bonded in a big way. I could not possibly comment upon it's USA release schedule.

**sup_fan** · 08-03-2016, 11:08 AM

I would be hesitant to believe some of the sales figures and counts in Call Her Miss Ross. Motown was notorious for having incomplete data on sales figures and also not providing ready access to them.

**daviddh** · 08-03-2016, 08:42 PM

I also heard that a guy was hired to write the screen play, took the money and then disappeared. I just remembered it was supposed tobe called Black Snow

**sansradio** · 08-03-2016, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by daviddh

I also heard that a guy was hired to write the screen play, took the money and then disappeared. I just remembered it was supposed tobe called Black Snow

Never heard that working title. The one I remember is "Hot Snow." Pity it never came to fruition; Valaida Snow was truly a fascinating, complex figure who led a remarkable yet short life. This would have been a perfect vehicle for Miss Ross. Sigh...

**vgalindo** · 08-03-2016, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by daviddh

I also heard that a guy was hired to write the screen play, took the money and then disappeared. I just remembered it was supposed tobe called Black Snow

That's the name I remember. "Hot Snow". Too bad it didn't get made. Diana could have made so many more movies.

**Jimi LaLumia** · 08-05-2016, 09:07 PM

we all know I adore DR, but when I found out that she had passed on "The Bodyguard" with Ryan O Neil, I threw my hands up in regard to a film career... just crazy!!

**vgalindo** · 08-05-2016, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by Jimi LaLumia

we all know I adore DR, but when I found out that she had passed on "The Bodyguard" with Ryan O Neil, I threw my hands up in regard to a film career... just crazy!!

I agree. I couldn't believe she didn't do "The Bodyguard". It would have been a big hit.

**Bluebrock** · 08-06-2016, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by vgalindo

I agree. I couldn't believe she didn't do "The Bodyguard". It would have been a big hit.

I honestly don't know why she turned this down. I didn't ask her but someone else told me that Berry begged her not to do it because he knew Diana and Ryan were attracted to one another and that of course made him feel jealous. He had good reason to be jealous because they did indeed have a romance shortly after Diana's first marriage ended. Not sure how true the first part of my story is but ii can vouch for the second part.

**vgalindo** · 08-05-2016, 11:27 PM

[QUOTE=greg jones;343035]

Originally Posted by Bluebrock

Bluerock...
I do remember hearing about Diana working on the Josephine Baker project. One question that I was never quite sure on though, was it intended to be a big screen picture or tv film ?

I don't want to answer for Bluerock. But it was first intended for the big screen. But Diana couldn't find the financing from a major studio. Then Ted Turner made a deal to do it for television TNT. I was upset at the time because I wanted it to be a major motion picture. I would take a TV movie now knowing it was not meant to be. HBO beat TNT and that was the end.

**Bluebrock** · 08-06-2016, 07:17 AM

[QUOTE=vgalindo;343055]

Originally Posted by greg jones

I don't want to answer for Bluerock. But it was first intended for the big screen. But Diana couldn't find the financing from a major studio. Then Ted Turner made a deal to do it for television TNT. I was upset at the time because I wanted it to be a major motion picture. I would take a TV movie now knowing it was not meant to be. HBO beat TNT and that was the end.

Well you did answer it for me and you answered it correctly vgalindo so there is not much else i can add to your account!

**sup_fan** · 08-06-2016, 10:26 AM

according to the various Diana and Motown books published, Diana passed on Bodyguard because she was only given a treatment, not a script. She wasn't willing to commit until there was something more concrete

plus there are the stories that she was not in favor of the heavier violence and strong language, horrified by the nude scene [[not sure what scene that would have been) and felt the title emphasized Ryan's character over her own

**thommg** · 08-06-2016, 11:07 AM

Regarding The Bodyguard, from what I heard, Kevin Costner really reworked that story and it was not the as what Diana would have been offered. It wouldn't surprise me that they didn't have a script to show her if she was being offered the role very early in the process. Many stars are attached to scripts [[or treatments) early on and the projects never materialize, or they are gone when it finally gets made.

**vgalindo** · 08-06-2016, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by sup_fan

according to the various Diana and Motown books published, Diana passed on Bodyguard because she was only given a treatment, not a script. She wasn't willing to commit until there was something more concrete

plus there are the stories that she was not in favor of the heavier violence and strong language, horrified by the nude scene [[not sure what scene that would have been) and felt the title emphasized Ryan's character over her own

Yes I remember the news on my local radio station reporting Diana would not be doing "The Bodyguard" because of a nude scene.

**Bluebrock** · 08-06-2016, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by vgalindo

Yes I remember the news on my local radio station reporting Diana would not be doing "The Bodyguard" because of a nude scene.

It is true to say the original draft for the Bodyguard differed from the Costner.Whitney version. It was a different era with different standards. I wish she had done it but despite Diana's reluctance to do it there were also people in the film industry who did not want her to do it either.

**daviddh** · 08-06-2016, 04:57 PM

Bluebrock. A bit off topic. But is Diana aware if Cindy B being ill??

**Bluebrock** · 08-06-2016, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by daviddh

Bluebrock. A bit off topic. But is Diana aware if Cindy B being ill??

Yes she is and she has been in touch.

**daviddh** · 08-06-2016, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Bluebrock

Yes she is and she has been in touch.

thank you, I was under the impression by another that only she and Scherrie had been in contact. thought that was odd but obviously another rumour.thanks for clearing that up

**Bluebrock** · 08-07-2016, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by daviddh

thank you, I was under the impression by another that only she and Scherrie had been in contact. thought that was odd but obviously another rumour.thanks for clearing that up

She prefers to do things like this in private rather than under the glare of publicity. Most of her charity work passes under the radar which is how she prefers it, but mark my words there has been contact on several occasions.