Remember when?

[Jerry Oz]

I didn't hear about that neighborhood. I did hear about one that was so old it presented problems for my friend, Mark. One night as he was taking out his trash, he heard his name being called from somewhere nearby.

"Mark!"

"Who is it?" he asked, wary about the fact that nobody in the area knew his name.

"Mark!" It was repeating and it sounded urgent. He was now alarmed. "Mark! Mark!"

"Stop playing," he said, thinking that something strange was going on. "I have a knife, mutha f***a!"

"Mark! Mark!"

He walked toward the sound of the voice, wishing that he had a knife. It was getting louder as he progressed, so he knew he was walking in the right direction. Finally, he was near the fence between him and one of his neighbors. The voice was right beyond the fence. He said a quick prayer and forced himself to look over it.

"Who is it?!" he said in a loud voice but all he saw was an old dog. He noticed it was staring at him and its tongue was hanging out of a mouth that had no teeth. Curiously, he noticed a pair of canine dentures on the ground near the dog. Nobody else was around. The dog opened its mouth to growl and he saw its gums gleam in the moonlight. Then their eyes met and he knew it was about to bark at him. And then he heard it:

"Mark!"

[marv2]

I didn't hear about that neighborhood. I did hear about one that was so old it presented problems for my friend, Mark. One night as he was taking out his trash, he heard his name being called from somewhere nearby.

"Mark!"

"Who is it?" he asked, wary about the fact that nobody in the area knew his name.

"Mark!" It was repeating and it sounded urgent. He was now alarmed. "Mark! Mark!"

"Stop playing," he said, thinking that something strange was going on. "I have a knife, mutha f***a!"

"Mark! Mark!"

He walked toward the sound of the voice, wishing that he had a knife. It was getting louder as he progressed, so he knew he was walking in the right direction. Finally, he was near the fence between him and one of his neighbors. The voice was right beyond the fence. He said a quick prayer and forced himself to look over it.

"Who is it?!" he said in a loud voice but all he saw was an old dog. He noticed it was staring at him and its tongue was hanging out of a mouth that had no teeth. Curiously, he noticed a pair of canine dentures on the ground near the dog. Nobody else was around. The dog opened its mouth to growl and he saw its gums gleam in the moonlight. Then their eyes met and he knew it was about to bark at him. And then he heard it:

"Mark!"

Oh too funny!!!! LOL!

[Jerry Oz]

Oh too funny!!!! LOL!

One of my dad's old jokes. Only instead of an old dog, his had a hare lip. My Pops really screwed his baby boy up with old jokes like that [[and a lot of off colored ones). But I knew a few people with cleft palates, so I don't make hare lip jokes.

But from a "remember when" standpoint, I feel sad for the 60% of black kids born out of wedlock, knowing that a lot of them won't have good times to share with their old man like I did. My old man taught me a lot about life and he's still my hero. Wonder how many boys and young men can say that these days?

[marv2]

One of my dad's old jokes. Only instead of an old dog, his had a hare lip. My Pops really screwed his baby boy up with old jokes like that [[and a lot of off colored ones). But I knew a few people with cleft palates, so I don't make hare lip jokes.

But from a "remember when" standpoint, I feel sad for the 60% of black kids born out of wedlock, knowing that a lot of them won't have good times to share with their old man like I did. My old man taught me a lot about life and he's still my hero. Wonder how many boys and young men can say that these days?

I told my Dad when I turned 14 that I was almost grown and should NOT have to do yard work and stuff. He took me with him to one of his hang outs "The Tiki Lounge". It was a hotel, showroom and bar. He ordered two martinis and gave one to me. I tried to drink it, but after one good sip, I started choking and coughing. He and the bartender laughed their asses off at me. hehehehehehe!

[Jerry Oz]

Dad and his buddies went to the Grenadier Club, which was affiliated with his lodge. I remember the match books with the naked ladies on them that he'd bring home after spending Friday and Saturday nights there. My big brother and I had the idea that it was some sort of high class joint with a particular clientele. One day, Pops told us that we were ready to visit his haunt and we were both excited.

Man, we got in there and it was a shock! The hard-wood floor was all splintered, there were lights that needed to be replaced, and the pool table was leveled on a phone book. Music was supplied by an old jukebox. Talk about a let down; we looked at each other with unspoken disappointment. We never went back again and never wanted to.

With that said, as a young man, I went to a variety of clubs and one of them [[the recently closed C&S Club) wasn't much better than the Grenadier Club. It was on a scary part of the city and was definitely a come-as-you-are joint. People came through in work uniforms, overalls, tennis shoes, brogans, and any way they wanted. The fish was really good, so that made it interesting. The Thursday night talent show was a flipping hoot; somebody used to tape it and put it on public access TV. I stopped going when the third person in about a year got shot in the parking lot. We used to call it the "Chop & Slice" or "Cut & Stab" Club because it was notoriously dangerous. My two dudes kept going though and the week after I stopped, they witnessed a guy get shot in the parking lot so they stopped going to. It still stayed open for another 25 years.

One of the other clubs that I attended was so stuffy, you had to dress better than if you were going to church. The girls were snotty as heck and if you asked one to dance, you could expect them to act as if you wanted to take nude photos from their reaction. But there were just enough really cool chicks to make it worth the rejection. We went to three other clubs at the same time that were somewhere between the C&S and Point 3. You didn't have to wear a tie but I wouldn't recommend wearing an extra large white tee shirt, either. You had to dress like you had some level of respect for yourself and you'd have a great time. Chicks were eager to dance most nights. I met my wife at one of them and have seldom been to a bar without her since.

[marv2]

Dad and his buddies went to the Grenadier Club, which was affiliated with his lodge. I remember the match books with the naked ladies on them that he'd bring home after spending Friday and Saturday nights there. My big brother and I had the idea that it was some sort of high class joint with a particular clientele. One day, Pops told us that we were ready to visit his haunt and we were both excited.

Man, we got in there and it was a shock! The hard-wood floor was all splintered, there were lights that needed to be replaced, and the pool table was leveled on a phone book. Music was supplied by an old jukebox. Talk about a let down; we looked at each other with unspoken disappointment. We never went back again and never wanted to.

With that said, as a young man, I went to a variety of clubs and one of them [[the recently closed C&S Club) wasn't much better than the Grenadier Club. It was on a scary part of the city and was definitely a come-as-you-are joint. People came through in work uniforms, overalls, tennis shoes, brogans, and any way they wanted. The fish was really good, so that made it interesting. The Thursday night talent show was a flipping hoot; somebody used to tape it and put it on public access TV. I stopped going when the third person in about a year got shot in the parking lot. We used to call it the "Chop & Slice" or "Cut & Stab" Club because it was notoriously dangerous. My two dudes kept going though and the week after I stopped, they witnessed a guy get shot in the parking lot so they stopped going to. It still stayed open for another 25 years.

One of the other clubs that I attended was so stuffy, you had to dress better than if you were going to church. The girls were snotty as heck and if you asked one to dance, you could expect them to act as if you wanted to take nude photos from their reaction. But there were just enough really cool chicks to make it worth the rejection. We went to three other clubs at the same time that were somewhere between the C&S and Point 3. You didn't have to wear a tie but I wouldn't recommend wearing an extra large white tee shirt, either. You had to dress like you had some level of respect for yourself and you'd have a great time. Chicks were eager to dance most nights. I met my wife at one of them and have seldom been to a bar without her since.

Man Jerry so many similarities. There is a Grenadier Club that is associated with the Elks on Junction Ave. in Toledo. That is a pretty rough area of town as well. What you described sounds like any random Union Hall in Ohio or Michigan. They had them all around Detroit. They served the strongest drinks for the cheapest prices to factory workers and UAW members. It is nothing now compared to the 1950s,60s and 70s since there are much fewer factory workers.

[Jerry Oz]

And there will be fewer, thanks to the Moron. The Supreme Court is expected to gut unions' right to collect dues from non-members in this session, which will result in the death of many unions. Of course, it will also mean that raises will decrease and benefits will shrivel up. And sadly, many of the people who will be most affected by it voted to "Make AmeriKKKa Grate Again". I'd say it serves them right, but it's not fair to everybody else.

[marv2]

And there will be fewer, thanks to the Moron. The Supreme Court is expected to gut unions' right to collect dues from non-members in this session, which will result in the death of many unions. Of course, it will also mean that raises will decrease and benefits will shrivel up. And sadly, many of the people who will be most affected by it voted to "Make AmeriKKKa Grate Again". I'd say it serves them right, but it's not fair to everybody else.

That is a sad fact, a reality. I remember the UAW would have this huge Christmas shows and parties for kids of their members. We'd get lots of candy and more toys to go with the ones you got Christmas. They'd have huge family barbeques,etc etc. They are now 30% of what they were when my Dad was a member back in the day.

[arr&bee]

My father was a union man too,and got paid back in the day,as you guys say unions are in trouble and a union buster is in the white house.

[marv2]

My father was a union man too,and got paid back in the day,as you guys say unions are in trouble and a union buster is in the white house.

That is true. I never enjoyed the benefits of having a union job other than part time jobs in the summer and at night when I was in school. I do see the importance of unions.

[Jerry Oz]

I worked for a grocery store that wasn't organized in the '80s. I made it up to $10.77/hour, which was pretty good money back then. I thought I had it pretty good until another larger chain relocated in town and to make themselves competitive, my company cut all of our pay by a dollar an hour. They gave us $500 to soften the blow but it came out to about $350 after taxes. Later, I was about to buy my first new car, which I could afford based on the 25-40 hours per week I'd worked for the previous three years. The day before I was going to sign for it, I went to pick up my pay check and saw that I was scheduled for two days and nine hours the next week. I asked my boss why I only had nine hours after I'd worked there for six years and he shrugged and basically let me know that if I didn't like it, I could quit.

Anybody who scoffs at unions needs to experience the harsh side of not having a contract when you need one.

[marv2]

I worked for a grocery store that wasn't organized in the '80s. I made it up to $10.77/hour, which was pretty good money back then. I thought I had it pretty good until another larger chain relocated in town and to make themselves competitive, my company cut all of our pay by a dollar an hour. They gave us $500 to soften the blow but it came out to about $350 after taxes. Later, I was about to buy my first new car, which I could afford based on the 25-40 hours per week I'd worked for the previous three years. The day before I was going to sign for it, I went to pick up my pay check and saw that I was scheduled for two days and nine hours the next week. I asked my boss why I only had nine hours after I'd worked there for six years and he shrugged and basically let me know that if I didn't like it, I could quit.

Anybody who scoffs at unions needs to experience the harsh side of not having a contract when you need one.

As I was saying. I never really enjoyed the benefits of being in a union job. I worked most of my life in New York, which is a "Right to Work" State. You can be let go from a job for any reason and there are no employment contracts for non-union workers.

[Jerry Oz]

Non-union employees benefit from unions because if the union can negotiate a fair wage at its shop, other similar businesses have to have a competitive wage in order to attract and keep their workers. If you bust the unions, then it's a race to the bottom of the wage scale and benefits for everybody. Businesses typically do wage reviews for jobs in their immediate area and nobody wants to pay more for wages than competitors. One of the reasons that the stock market checked itself last week is because we're approaching full employment, meaning businesses have to raise rates in order to attract and keep people. That's going to create inflation and affect a lot of company's bottom lines.

[robb_k]

Non-union employees benefit from unions because if the union can negotiate a fair wage at its shop, other similar businesses have to have a competitive wage in order to attract and keep their workers. If you bust the unions, then it's a race to the bottom of the wage scale and benefits for everybody. Businesses typically do wage reviews for jobs in their immediate area and nobody wants to pay more for wages than competitors. One of the reasons that the stock market checked itself last week is because we're approaching full employment, meaning businesses have to raise rates in order to attract and keep people. That's going to create inflation and affect a lot of company's bottom lines.

Just another nail in the coffin of USA's middle class, and move by The Billionaires' plot to turn USA into a 3rd World nation, with a massive low class of the majority of the population having no power, no rights and being extremely poorly educated [[and so, ignorant of what possibilities they might have to attempt to better themselves), ruled over by a tiny elite of wealthy people, treating them as slaves. Not a good situation. Privitising education is a related tactic, which will result in most of the population being ignorant. The public school systems are bad enough already. But, with all being private, only the schools supported by the very rich, will have enough money to provide a reasonable education. The very rich will see to that, as a gigantic ignorant underclass will suit their needs.

[marv2]

Just another nail in the coffin of USA's middle class, and move by The Billionaires' plot to turn USA into a 3rd World nation, with a massive low class of the majority of the population having no power, no rights and being extremely poorly educated [[and so, ignorant of what possibilities they might have to attempt to better themselves), ruled over by a tiny elite of wealthy people, treating them as slaves. Not a good situation. Privitising education is a related tactic, which will result in most of the population being ignorant. The public school systems are bad enough already. But, with all being private, only the schools supported by the very rich, will have enough money to provide a reasonable education. The very rich will see to that, as a gigantic ignorant underclass will suit their needs.

Robb, can you image this country becoming one of Surfs and Lords?

[Jerry Oz]

Robb, can you image this country becoming one of Surfs and Lords?

Someone actually wrote an article for Politico this week that proposed having rich people "sponsor" immigrants, who would essentially be their serfs. Consider that for just a moment. Someone wants people to be allowed into the country to serve at the beck and call of a presumably wealthy "benefactor". Sounds way too much like human trafficking to me.

[robb_k]

Someone actually wrote an article for Politico this week that proposed having rich people "sponsor" immigrants, who would essentially be their serfs. Consider that for just a moment. Someone wants people to be allowed into the country to serve at the beck and call of a presumably wealthy "benefactor". Sounds way too much like human trafficking to me.

Will those Serfs have at least a limited period of serfdom and a "buyout" clause, the way indentured servants had in the 1600s, 1700s and early 1800s? Or are we going back to The Roman days of slavery?

[marv2]

Someone actually wrote an article for Politico this week that proposed having rich people "sponsor" immigrants, who would essentially be their serfs. Consider that for just a moment. Someone wants people to be allowed into the country to serve at the beck and call of a presumably wealthy "benefactor". Sounds way too much like human trafficking to me.

What they really want are slaves or indentured servants. Just like in the long ago past. They want people to take care of their kids, homes, lawns. They want people that will work for whatever they can get in restaurant kitchens, factories and out on farms picking produce. They want people to beg for their crumbs and will do whatever they are told.

[144man]

If you're approaching full employment, you need to let in more immigrants then.

[Jerry Oz]

If you're approaching full employment, you need to let in more immigrants then.

[marv2]

Watch food prices go up, up, up........

[Jerry Oz]

Watch food prices go up, up, up........

Yep. And watch the Republicans propose putting welfare recipients to work on farms and in hotels and landscaping to do the hard low-paying jobs that are already being lost thanks to ICE scaring people away. They're already planning on making them pick up trash by the side of the road in Kentucky to collect benefits. There are jobs that Americans don't want to do for any price and they are typically the lowest paying jobs in the economy since only immigrants [[who can't be unionized) are willing to do them. Watch what happens to the price of produce by Fall 2019.

[marv2]

Yep. And watch the Republicans propose putting welfare recipients to work on farms and in hotels and landscaping to do the hard low-paying jobs that are already being lost thanks to ICE scaring people away. They're already planning on making them pick up trash by the side of the road in Kentucky to collect benefits. There are jobs that Americans don't want to do for any price and they are typically the lowest paying jobs in the economy since only immigrants [[who can't be unionized) are willing to do them. Watch what happens to the price of produce by Fall 2019.

That is EXACTLY what they are planning to do Jerry! It was heading that way under Clinton. Whoever they get to do those jobs, they will not be paying them a living wage. I know on Long Island one time I was going around with my buddy Vinny looking for rental properties. We went to house that had 9-12 grown Latin American workers sleeping in them!

[Jerry Oz]

Exactly. It's easy to see what's going on. Starting with the elimination of the Voters' Rights Act and continuing with Citizens United decision, control over elections has been shifted to those with the power to donate huge amounts of money to representatives beholden to them and not the constituents of their districts. You saw it when their voters showed up in Washington DC to demand they not eliminate the Affordable Care Act. The demands fell on deaf ears with only party line talking points in response, even when the well-educated constituents countered those talking points with facts.

And look at what buying a politician gets you. The attorney general is attacking affirmative action while ignoring the increase in murders committed by extremist white nationalist groups. They're kicking out undocumented immigrants who trusted the government when it said that if they'd register with them and stay employed or in school, they'd be permitted to stay. They've even set a course to kick out Dreamers who served in the military in war zones, ignoring the promise made to nationalize them. Muslims have been ostracized.

With the Moron's election, not only has police accountability become a forgotten goal, cops killed a record number of citizens with few repercussions in 2017. And Jeff Sessions has thrown away dozens of consent decrees that city's have signed with the Department of Justice that called for constructive action to clean up how their police interact with the public and provide more transparent investigations of potential police abuse. Trump has budgeted huge cuts in Medicare and Medicaid. And this week, they're even going after the Americans with Disabilities Act.

So by my count, they've attacked peoples of color, Muslims, immigrants, older people, poor people, and disabled. And don't forget women now that the Moron has trashed Obama's equal rights initiatives and eased up Title IX college rape reporting requirements. Absolutely reprehensible, no matter whose perspective you are looking at it. How in the world does an elected official stay in office when his stated goal is attacking the rights of huge swaths of his electorate?

This isn't the America I was believing in. Things got slowly better as I grew older and then that progress was erased in just a few short years. Remember when the future actually seemed bright?

[Jerry Oz]

The author states that if the immigrant didn't appreciate the arrangement, they could "be free to leave at any time". So if they didn't appreciate their "sponsor" for any reason [[pay issues, sexual harassment, changes in employment conditions) then that person could save up enough money on his/her $5/hour salary for a ticket back to whatever hellish circumstances they escaped. The insane ramblings of a privileged mind are something to behold. This article was so offensive, I had to stop reading before I made it to the bottom.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...onomics-216968

[Jerry Oz]

Now my head is racing. What if the wealthy wanted to "sponsor" welfare recipients by having them do domestic work, gardening or working as handymen in exchange for paying some or all of their government benefits? The incentive would be to lose your benefits if you don't want to scrub a hedge fund owner's toilets.

[marv2]

Now my head is racing. What if the wealthy wanted to "sponsor" welfare recipients by having them do domestic work, gardening or working as handymen in exchange for paying some or all of their government benefits? The incentive would be to lose your benefits if you don't want to scrub a hedge fund owner's toilets.

I remember under Clinton they did try a "work for welfare" program where they had welfare recipients sweeping and washing streets in some cities. This could definitely happen. When you threaten people's ability to get food, they will do whatever it takes. Food is a basic requirement. You've seen people holding the signs "Will work for food". They are kidding. Hard to believe that it goes on in America, but it does everyday somewhere!

[robb_k]

I remember under Clinton they did try a "work for welfare" program where they had welfare recipients sweeping and washing streets in some cities. This could definitely happen. When you threaten people's ability to get food, they will do whatever it takes. Food is a basic requirement. You've seen people holding the signs "Will work for food". They are kidding. Hard to believe that it goes on in America, but it does everyday somewhere!

Already, in The Netherlands, people applying for welfare and unemployment compensation need to work at menial jobs, if they want to receive money from The State. I'm sure that will happen in USA, and I am for it, as long as all people are treated equally, in that regard.

[marv2]

Already, in The Netherlands, people applying for welfare and unemployment compensation need to work at menial jobs, if they want to receive money from The State. I'm sure that will happen in USA, and I am for it, as long as all people are treated equally, in that regard.

Picking up litter is very needed in most American cities. I hate litter and those who do it!

[Jerry Oz]

Consider also, as robb_k said, they're making it harder to be educated in both primary school and college. It's becoming too expensive for many to go college I think fewer people will enter the teaching profession as salaries don't maintain pace with wages in other vocations. That's a bigger pool of people who will feed into that caste of underprivileged who are only equipped for that lifestyle.

And we're not even talking about the people who are being forced to do manual labor as part of their incarceration in prison. Judges have been found to have deals with private prisons that resulted in more people being sentenced to time for crimes that can easily be punished via probation. Guess who gets sentenced to prison more than anybody else? Yep, black men. It's not about rehabilitation. It's about free and underpaid labor. Nobody is paying attention to what's going on with the penal system but it ties into the discussion about classism and cheap labor.
https://theintercept.com/2018/01/14/...al-conditions/

[arr&bee]

Is it me,or did the streets seem less crowded when cars were bigger?

[Jerry Oz]

Is it me,or did the streets seem less crowded when cars were bigger?

Is it me, or does it seem like most people live in a bubble with the world extending only as far away as their cell phones? You see four people looking at their phones while sitting around a table in restaurants. Why'd they bother going out of they prefer to spend their time with others? Isn't that rude anymore?

[marv2]

Is it me, or does it seem like most people live in a bubble with the world extending only as far away as their cell phones? You see four people looking at their phones while sitting around a table in restaurants. Why'd they bother going out of they prefer to spend their time with others? Isn't that rude anymore?

How about getting the train to city in morning with 70 other people. You all ride for about 1:20 mins and not one person speaks to another because they are all looking at their cell phones the whole ride!

[Jerry Oz]

If we survive long enough, we'll live in a virtual world inside of 30 years. Nobody will know anyone other than their families when schooling and most jobs can be done from home. Might make finding a girlfriend tricky, though.

[marv2]

I can see the time coming where you could be arrested for speaking to strangers.

[Jerry Oz]

We will probably all have cameras embedded to record our interactions. If someone is murdered, cops can use the data to help solve crimes. Unless the cops shot him, in which case the data will be "corrupted" and prove to be unhelpful. I expect all currency to be via a chip so we won't need credit cards or cash. Police will subpoena your chip to track illegal transactions. The good news will be sliding your chip into a hooker's "reader" will be fun.

[marv2]

We will probably all have cameras embedded to record our interactions. If someone is murdered, cops can use the data to help solve crimes. Unless the cops shot him, in which case the data will be "corrupted" and prove to be unhelpful. I expect all currency to be via a chip so we won't need credit cards or cash. Police will subpoena your chip to track illegal transactions. The good news will be sliding your chip into a hooker's "reader" will be fun.

It has already begun with this new 5G Technology. Scary stuff here:

[arr&bee]

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa...remember when the only[chips]we talked about were[potato]?

[robb_k]

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa...remember when the only[chips]we talked about were[potato]?

What about Buffalo??? Are Buffalo Chips anything like Buffalo Wings??? Or Buffalo Bearcats???

[marv2]

What about Buffalo??? Are Buffalo Chips anything like Buffalo Wings??? Or Buffalo Bearcats???

I think they are Buffalo flavored potato chips.

[Jerry Oz]

Remember the Lay's Potato Chips slogan [["Bet you can't eat just one")? How about when Pringles first launched? I hated Pringles because they didn't seem like real potato chips.

[marv2]

Remember the Lay's Potato Chips slogan [["Bet you can't eat just one")? How about when Pringles first launched? I hated Pringles because they didn't seem like real potato chips.

Pringles tasted strange. My favorites were a brand sold in Ohio.....Cain's Potato Chips.

[Jerry Oz]

I wasn't a big fan of Cain's but they were everywhere back in the day, so I had to get used to them. Do they sell Grippo's barbecue potato chips where you are? Grippo's had more barbecue flavoring than chip and used to only be sold in the inner city but now they're in the 'burbs. They're selling that barbecue seasoning separately now. Back in the '80s, darn near every 40 ounce got sold with a bag of them.

[marv2]

I wasn't a big fan of Cain's but they were everywhere back in the day, so I had to get used to them. Do they sell Grippo's barbecue potato chips where you are? Grippo's had more barbecue flavoring than chip and used to only be sold in the inner city but now they're in the 'burbs. They're selling that barbecue seasoning separately now. Back in the '80s, darn near every 40 ounce got sold with a bag of them.

My cousin Debbie likes those. Grippo Bar-b-q chips.

[Jerry Oz]

Before I stopped eating meat, I used to love buffalo wings. I still put buffalo sauce on sardines and seafood.

Does anybody remember when chicken wings were the cheapest part of the chicken? After buffalo wings became a hit, they became short in supply and now you can't buy them for less than a couple bucks per pound. Church's Fried Chicken had to put a huge chunk of breast meat on each wing just to get them to sell. Now, Church's charges an arm and a leg for white meat.

[arr&bee]

Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaa...you still have a churches chicken joint where you live????? Wow those places went under in the early eighties here,you could pour a pint of grease out of every box meal.

[Jerry Oz]

Yeah, there's a bunch of them in central Ohio. The last time I went to one was about ten years ago. I paid and extra $2.39 to my $7.99 eight piece so that it would be mixed with white meat. Instead of giving me two breasts and two wings like I would expect, having paid extra, those bums gave me one of each. I never understood why people who work in fast food restaurants feel comfortable giving as little as possible to customers. Like when you order a cup of pop and it's 2/3 filled with ice or a large fry that has the same amount in a bigger box as you'd get in a small fry. I'm not asking for anything I'm not paying for, but the commercials sure make the amount of food look to be more robust.

[arr&bee]

I think that the last time we were at churches,someone poured the grease from a box and backed up traffic for ten miles.

[Jerry Oz]

Yeah, man. I tried to use a paper towel to soak up some of the grease from a drumstick and it stuck to it. It wound up being the only fiber that I ate that day.

[marv2]

Yeah, man. I tried to use a paper towel to soak up some of the grease from a drumstick and it stuck to it. It wound up being the only fiber that I ate that day.

That sounds gross. LOL!!!