Ashlee Simpson seeks Diana Ross' help to reignite career

[Lulu]

Just sayin'..................................

If we're talking US Hot 100 singles, let's take a look at the other veterans.

Not a whole hell of a lot in the last 10, 15, almost 20 years for these folks:


Aretha Franklin's last "hit" was "Here We Go Again" [[#76, 1998)

Patti LaBelle's last "hit" was "When You Talk About Love" [[#56, 1997)

Dionne Warwick's last "hit" was "What The World Needs Now" [[#87, 1998)

Gladys Knight's last "hit" was "Missing You" [[#25, 1996)

Tina Turner's last "hit" was "Missing You" [[#84, 1996)

Cher's last "hit" was "Song For The Lonely" [[#85, 2002)

Barbra Streisand's last "hit" was "I Finally Found Someone" [[#8, 1996)

Do we honestly believe any of these women will hit the Hot 100 again?

[jillfoster]

If we're talking US Hot 100 singles, let's take a look at the other veterans.

Not a whole hell of a lot in the last 10, 15, almost 20 years for these folks:


Aretha Franklin's last "hit" was "Here We Go Again" [[#76, 1998)

Patti LaBelle's last "hit" was "When You Talk About Love" [[#56, 1997)

Dionne Warwick's last "hit" was "What The World Needs Now" [[#87, 1998)

Gladys Knight's last "hit" was "Missing You" [[#25, 1996)

Tina Turner's last "hit" was "Missing You" [[#84, 1996)

Cher's last "hit" was "Song For The Lonely" [[#85, 2002)

Barbra Streisand's last "hit" was "I Finally Found Someone" [[#8, 1996)

Do we honestly believe any of these women will hit the Hot 100 again?

Maybe, maybe not. But like I said, if they did have a clue on how to get a hit record, they'd use it for themselves. Sorry, but I can't have one iota of respect for someone who does this:

[Lulu]

Maybe, maybe not. But like I said, if they did have a clue on how to get a hit record, they'd use it for themselves. Sorry, but I can't have one iota of respect for someone who does this:

That was the end for Ashlee. Like I said, she should just retire from the biz, be a wife and mom and maybe do some charity work or hell, start a clothing line - Jessica has made MILLIONS!

As for Diana helping, no way, no how and neither would any of the other ladies. When was the last time you had a "protege" of theirs hit the scene?

[marv2]

If we're talking US Hot 100 singles, let's take a look at the other veterans.

Not a whole hell of a lot in the last 10, 15, almost 20 years for these folks:


Aretha Franklin's last "hit" was "Here We Go Again" [[#76, 1998)

Patti LaBelle's last "hit" was "When You Talk About Love" [[#56, 1997)

Dionne Warwick's last "hit" was "What The World Needs Now" [[#87, 1998)

Gladys Knight's last "hit" was "Missing You" [[#25, 1996)

Tina Turner's last "hit" was "Missing You" [[#84, 1996)

Cher's last "hit" was "Song For The Lonely" [[#85, 2002)

Barbra Streisand's last "hit" was "I Finally Found Someone" [[#8, 1996)

Do we honestly believe any of these women will hit the Hot 100 again?

None of what you listed has been as long as 30 years ago. Diane has not hit anything in more than a generation......................

[Lulu]

None of what you listed has been as long as 30 years ago. Diane has not hit anything in more than a generation......................

I8 years is a long time and also "a generation". I'm not sure why it matters. DianA's last Hot 100 hit was "Experience" [[#64, 1986). 1986 was actually 28 years ago if we're being precise.

If any of the women above ever hit the Hot 100 again, you can guarantee I'll pick up the cheque for you and a +1 to dine at any restaurant in Manhattan. You just let me know and I'll phone in with my credit card.

[marv2]

I8 years is a long time and also "a generation". I'm not sure why it matters. DianA's last Hot 100 hit was "Experience" [[#64, 1986). 1986 was actually 28 years ago if we're being precise.

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That's not true. That record [["Experience") did even not make the charts at all in the U.S. I don't think I've even heard of that song before. I believe Aretha is pretty high up on the charts right now. Diana Ross' recording career kinda ended in the 80's.

[Lulu]

That's not true. That record [["Experience") did even not make the charts at all in the U.S. I don't think I've even heard of that song before. I believe Aretha is pretty high up on the charts right now. Diana Ross' recording career kinda ended in the 80's.

My mistake. "Experience" from Eaten Alive charted in the UK. "Chain Reaction" charted here in the US in 1986 at #66. Aretha's album will sell well for a few weeks but she'll have no singles on The Hot 100.

On that note, I'm kinda ending this conversation. I'll let someone else entertain this conversation for the 1,000,000th time. I've got to go watch my stories.

[marv2]

My mistake. "Experience" from Eaten Alive charted in the UK. "Chain Reaction" charted here in the US in 1986 at #66. Aretha's album will sell well for a few weeks but she'll have no singles on The Hot 100.

On that note, I'm kinda ending this conversation. I'll let someone else entertain this conversation for the 1,000,000th time. I've got to go watch my stories.

I'm not done yet. What I find most amazing is that Diane has had some very high profile opportunities to debut her later material, i.e the Super Bowl, American Music Awards, Oprah Winfrey Show multiple times and each time her music has been soundly rejected by the American Public! Why? I know most artists would kill for that kind of exposure. She had it and couldn't even get one hit from all those really big shows........

[soulster]

That's not true. That record [["Experience") did even not make the charts at all in the U.S. I don't think I've even heard of that song before. I believe Aretha is pretty high up on the charts right now. .

According to Billboard, Aretha id at #13. Barbra Streisand and neil Diamond are both in the top 10, and Tony Bennett is also in the top 10 with Lady Gaga.

If Ross wants to get back on the top ten, she has to get a label deal, do an album of standards with some other singers, and promote the hell out of it. It really doesn't have to be contemporary pop.

The cold reality is that Ross is only huge within her fan base. She's got to parlay that back into the mainstream. She also has to repair her image after reports of "diva" behavior. Sorry, but it's a hard fact that her image, at least in the U.S., is damaged. We are living in the internet era.

People like Aretha, Natalie Cole, Barbra Streisand have kept their name out there and have been releasing albums all this time. But, they have been able to do it because of image, image, image, and keeping product out there! I can't stress that enough!

[soulster]

If we're talking US Hot 100 singles, let's take a look at the other veterans.

Not a whole hell of a lot in the last 10, 15, almost 20 years for these folks:


Aretha Franklin's last "hit" was "Here We Go Again" [[#76, 1998)

Patti LaBelle's last "hit" was "When You Talk About Love" [[#56, 1997)

Dionne Warwick's last "hit" was "What The World Needs Now" [[#87, 1998)

Gladys Knight's last "hit" was "Missing You" [[#25, 1996)

Tina Turner's last "hit" was "Missing You" [[#84, 1996)

Cher's last "hit" was "Song For The Lonely" [[#85, 2002)

Barbra Streisand's last "hit" was "I Finally Found Someone" [[#8, 1996)

Do we honestly believe any of these women will hit the Hot 100 again?

Oh, it's very possible! Same with some of the men, like Rod Stewart, who's been releasing excellent standards albums for a decade that have been wildly successful, despite the horror from his old fanbase that wants a reunion album with Faces.

What kind of albums has Ross been releasing? And, don't count out Ashlee Simpson. With the way today's pop market is, she could get herself back on the charts. All it takes is the right music and producers. I also don't believe for a minute the mess the OP started this thread with.