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Lengthy review and article.
But I think it's digital only and Tarraborelli says motown fans need to get used to it!
What a nice surprise, I will buy it in any format. I had thought that it really didn't exist and according to Randy there is a lot more in the can [[vault) that we just don't know about. I had thought I heard once that we had gotten just about everything from the vaults. I still believe that "Farewell" exist.
'The Wiz' was awful and so was the music. I'm pleased for those who will be pleased but I'll pass on it!
Once again I must thank and send out praises to Andrew Skurow, George Solomon, and Harry Weinger. They are the ones who keep the legends of Motown alive.
The music was excellent; I believe it was nominated for 4 academy awards and some of those were music related.
The Wiz is very popular.
I'll be passing on this as its not anything I'm interested in.
i find Randys comments about downloads v cd's irritating to say the least.
the fans are letting Motown know what they want AND in what format.
cds dying?? There are plenty of stores rammed with cd's and plenty of smaller labels doing excellent reissues on artists past and current.
Pledge music is also a great idea.
Digital Motown? I'll pass thanks. I'll choose how and what product I spend my hard earned money on
It's interesting that Randy is oblivious to the upturn in vinyl sales that is taking place well after the 'death of vinyl' was proclaimed by the cd era.
“Those of us of a certain age are going to just have to surrender to the fact that CDs are on the way out, and there’s nothing we can do about that,” Taraborrelli continued, “the same way we had to surrender to the fact that we weren’t going to be able to get our vinyl"
But he does offer encouragement .....
'If the fans continue to demand the material, and be vocal about it, then it will surface.”
So as long as those who desire cd's are vocal about it.....
Amazing how he tries to threaten by saying:
"If we draw a line in the sand and say we’re not buying digital releases, we’re not going to get ANY releases.”
No, Mr. Taraborelli, if enough people say that 'if you offer only download versions, you will be getting none of my money but if you offer physical product [[cd's) as well as downloads you will be getting both their money and mine' will over time have an impact.
Amen mwmr.
Why can't they do a "deluxe" package on one of the Four Tops classic albums? That's what I want.
Tarraborelli is so so wrong with his statement about cds.
If fans don't buy digital releases, record companies aren't going to throw their rattle out of the pram and just stop releasing stuff completely.
They will look at how else they can extract our money. And if enough of us withhold our money in protest, they will eventually take note. If they are smart.
It happened with vinyl, which is very much alive and well.
I would get used to it if they wouldn't take so long between releases. It seems like they think they can't release anything unless it's already being promoted by someone else, like Funny Girl coming out only cuz of the Barbra Streisand anniversary release, and now The Wiz album coming out only cuz of the NBC live special. They wanna say we should get used to it, but they don't even seem confident enough to release the stuff we really would be more interested in, such as the long delayed Supremes A'Go-Go expanded edition. Is there something else with the title A'Go-Go in it coming out soon, maybe then they'll release the Supremes so they can piggy-back off the free promotion. jk!
I am really confused with the uproar that the music is not being offered on cds. Maybe someone can enlighten me. My questions are legitimate and not meant to demeaning.
1. If someone wants a cd, why can't he/she take the digital download and convert it to a cd? Or is it a "CD" only if the company produces the CD?
2. If the company sent out a cd, how did the music get transferred to the cd....could it possibly be from a digital file?
3. Is the fascination/obsession with a cd just because one wants something to store in a back closet somewhere, never to be played?
Now here's my opinion, instead of lamenting that we're not getting a cd, let's be thankful and happy that someone is "resurrecting" music from the 1970s in a fresh [[and probably better sounding) format.
This is so exciting. Thank you, Thank you Andy, George and Harry. This is wonderful news. I have always wanted to hear these recordings. Never thought I would get the chance. This is the best news. I know it will be outstanding!
I'll buy it because it's better than not having it. If it was a CD it would probably be more expensive, because fewer people are buying these products, and the company needs to make money on these. And then there would be the same complainers. These are niche items...it's not a greatest hits package. I understand why Harry and Andy and George rarely post here anymore.
What a strange way to learn about this release, i.e., from an obscure urban music site. So much for the Motown business model as is often mentioned on this forum! This release in in twelve days is not even mentioned on the DIANA ROSS AND THE SUPREMES EXPANDED EDITIONS FaceBook page. Does the concept of "marketing" and "promotion" exist in the Motown/Universal business plan? Oops, maybe there is no business plan.
I also find Randy's remarks about how fans should not complaining rather hurtful. He is entitled to his opinion, as are we.
Actually, this is a FORUM where information and facts should actually be exchanged in order to stimulate diverse and authentic discussion. Perhaps, if we as CUSTOMERS regularly received more facts and information from those involved in the production of the items that we purchase, there would be fewer "complaints." Information and communication are key to understanding differing views and thus would minimize concerns and consternation.
great news, I look forward to reviewing this in Good Times Magazine and spreading the word on line..I mentioned here when everyone was moaning about the expanded "Copa", I'm not buying this, I'm not buying that, they better release 'whatever' instead on vinyl on cd, on everything./ well they got your message, you're not buying, so they're not releasing, just as i predicted.. Beatles fans buy everything to show their support for the act, Supremes fans, not so much..looking forward to "The Wz" songs..and Randy's comments are TOTALLY right on!.. everyone should also support the Mary Wilson release, which I'll also be writing about soon..
Fascinating, Jim. I am interested in the data that you have reviewed. Are you saying that Motown has data from some folks on the SDF who choose not to purchase downloads and because of that they have dramatically cut back on their releases? I did not realize that SDF was so powerful. Thanks for clarifying.
Oh well,i have nothing to say really,i agree with Buttered Popcorn and so forth,for the most part.was this the surprise?
I am excited about this release!!! Randy's attitude is a turn-off and very ironic, going to roll my eyes and walk away from commenting further.....
I thought the banner would be the cover.
Sounds like there will be a great learned essay contained therein.
Interesting that Randy mentions there is plenty left in the vault by Diana Ross & the Supremes. I recall when the previous Lost & Found set was released that there was a statement made that there was not much left in the vault, other than a bunch of alternates, live tracks and the Disney album?
Either they have planted Randy to leak information they want to get out or alternatively, Randy is offering his best opinion like so many of us do.
1)Unless something has changed, at the heart of the issue is the fact that, in the U.S., the sites offering the 'Diana Ross Sings Songs From Wiz' downloads deliver compressed, low bitrate files [[less than company produced cd quality) rather than high resolution audio.
Question 2 is demeaning once one considers question 1.
Question 3 is demeaning because of the asinine assumption about those who collect cd's rather than download files and , in my estimation , on par with Mr. Taraborelli's smugness.
Your opinion is especially valid in areas other than the U.S. where one has greater opportunities for high quality downloads. It does appear that there are a few opportunitiesthat have sprung up in the U.S. but they often involve a greater financial investment for storage and playback.
Has anyone else had issues with the EUR website?
First, it wanted to track my physical location. No thanks.
Then I got a pop-up for a black lady hair product. Um, no.
Then I got a slew of other pop-ups. Gross.
I did happen to see this though, in the article:
The new release includes a beautiful booklet with never-before-published photos of Ross, and a new essay written by the reissue’s producers Andrew Skurow, George Solomon, and Harry Weinger.
Anyone else feel that "booklet" means "physical"?
There are a lot of booklets that are also digital that can be printed or stored on disc. I will give you more details once I download my copy.
You are right about this, iTunes should be avoided. I have tried to make forum members in Europe aware of the fact that Qobuz offers lossless [[ie cd quality) and high resolution downloads.
In the US, you might want to try Pono. Recently Universal made all the ABC Dunhill releases of the Four Tops available, and they were all offered on Pono as lossless downloads.
And that's another problem with downloads - the country restrictions. Not everything is available everywhere, and not in the same quality. Only customers in certain European countries can purchase from Qobuz, for example. One of those Tata Vega download releases was [[to my knowledge) never made available to download in the UK. Of course one can get around these restrictions, but that would be a big hassle and it's not clear if it's legal, so I won't do that.
With cd releases, you can just buy it and have it shipped to wherever you are.
Randy is so behind the times, it's funny...
Getting old and crotchety but he fits in with many motown fans and artists and he made a living off motown
http://http://finance.yahoo.com/vide...164000186.html
Although I did enjoy Diana's version of "Home" that was included on her boxed set, I will also pass on this release if it is solely a digital release. Was in the car last week and because it was a digital only release, I forgot that "Baby, It's Me" had been released since I have nothing physical or tangible as I do with "diana ross," the two-CD "diana," "Surrender," "Where Did Our Love Go?" etc. The kids today who are used to all things digital were not brought up with this music -- we were. I know Andy Skurow and George et. al. are not the ones making the decisions here and I appreciate that they are trying to get out some of this unreleased music. But I second the opinion that if we just say, "Sorry, not buying it," then they can figure out a way to do a limited run/edition of physical copies.
Im afraid I have the same negative attitude as you Ngroove. Cd's are not dying out. I was in my local HMV store on Saturday and I was most pleasantly surprised by the number of people purchasing cd's, and not just the over 40's. Maybe the youngsters were buying them as presents but the fact remains - the store was busy.
I want my music in a physical product and I know I am not alone.
Hopefully Ace records will come good. I know they are looking into locking into some kind of deal with Universal and they are also looking to expand more into releasing 70's music as well as 60's. We live in hope. In the meantime I shall be ignoring this release just as I did "baby it's me". I may be cutting off my nose etc but I have earned the right to have an opinion on this.