Yeah, she said once in 30 years. Now explain to me how this woman can remember only using that one word, one time in 3 decades?
She is lying.
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She just lost Target, Home Depo, and a drug maker has suspended ties with her. WE can now add them to Sears and QVC dropping her.
Here is where Jesse Jackson plays into this. Interesting, thing, though: she called him, but Jackson hasn't been recognized as a Black leader for a long time. Not that he isn't, it's just that most white people don't have a clue, and still think of Jesse, and usually not in very flattering terms.
A bad week for the buttery bigot.
She needs to stop being defiant, stop talking, and recognize just what it is people are upset about. It isn't so much the use of the "n" word, it's her attitude and belief system that killed her. The appearance on The Today Show was the icing on the cake.
She longs for the time that black "workers" served at the beck and call of their masters. Think about that for a minute. Who cares if those clean shirts and bow ties covered scars from the whipping and flogging they took to break their spirit? Who cares about families separated and sold off? Women being raped in the middle of the night as the husband listened from the next room, powerless? The endless nightmare of the Middle Passage, where people were chained to each other as cargo and thrown overboard if they got sick to let the sharks feed?
Ahhh! The glorious days of the Old South!
Here is an excellent opinion piece on PD's situation, and I agree with her 100%: http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/26/opinio...html?hpt=hp_c2
How anyone is putting any importance on what a 66 year old White woman from the south said upmteen years ago or yesterday for that matter baffles me. Who is really surprised? She's 66 and from Georgia. If anything, appreciate her honesty. She admitted to something that im sure 99% of all Americans [[Black, White, all races for that matter) has thought or said at some point in time of their life and would likely never admit to. Are we really that naive to think otherwise? I guess for the racist police this is a solid victory. Any chance to claim holier-than-though and convict a person they don't even know is like a fun game for them. Seeing the charges of this woman on everything from evil to sociopath is just laughable. Shes human and she made a dumb mistake...for whatever reason. She will now pay financially and has clearly been convicted in the court of public opinion. My guess is that she will make a comeback from this eventually. Most people who are caught making racist comments in Hollywood or TV make a bounce back after time. Hymie-town anyone?
I will say this though: to disparage fellow Blacks who use this time to bring up our peoples own ignorance in perpetuating the ignorant use of this hateful word is just wrong. There is no defense of our people today throwing this word around and we cannot expect it to be driven from the lips of whites until its driven from our own.
No, funkyfresh, she was not totally honest. This is not about her use of the "n" word. This is about her refusal or inability to recognize the harm of her words. What's worse, she persists in blaming others for her problems. Did you even read the link to the article I posted above yours? The author is deaf-on in her assessment of Deen and her gaffs.
Making excuses that she's a 66-year-old woman from the south doesn't wash. She must be made accountable for her words. That is why all of her corporate partners are bolting.
She made a mistake? She's made many of them, and one was to go on the Today Show and blame everyone else, not apologize, not own up to her beliefs, and, on top of that, she was defiant and made more insulting racial references [["I is what I is, and I ain't changing!"). She doesn't do herself any favors by sounding more ignorant than she already is.
I agree with you in part on your final point, that, we, as Black people need to stop using that word too. By the continued use of that word by blacks, no matter what justification there mat be for it, gives whites, Latinos, and everyone else an excuse. For the record, I never use the word. I did not grow up with it in my home, and I scold family and anyone else I hear use it.
Paul Dean wanted a plantation style wedding and this was real recent. Miss Paula wanted a a old south style feel to it “that represented a certain era in America.” How insulting and offensive is that?
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But, here's the problem: most of the media, and white people who defend her, want you to think it's all about that one word. If that were all it was, there'd be no issue.
What is disturbing is how many people are supporting her, even enough to make her book #1, where if this hadn't happened, it wouldn't have had a chance. It tells me that there are a LOT of like-minded people out there who probably [[and some, ignorantly) agree with her views on race. And I know there are some people out there who wish we could go back to enslaving Black people.
The "n"-word is beside the point. The real issue is Paula Deen's attitude before and after this news hit. A person doesn't have to be a racist to have racist views. But, does a racist have racist views? Of course!
"Accidental racist" describes her to a tee! The problem with these accidental racists is that they don't want to change, and Ms. Deen has stated that she isn't going to. That is why she lost more business. And, the people boycotting Walmart, Target, Home Depo, Sears, The Food network, and the others, isn't helping her case.
Let me ask you something, funky: do you excuse Jesse Jackson for his "hymie-town" remark like you think we should excuse Paula Deen for her remark? Or, are you one of those people who will forever throw that up whenever he is mentioned in a favorable light?
Two points for funky_fresh:
1. NOBODY who uses that word is worthy of a pass and should not be financially enabled, in my opinion. Especially someone who pointedly feels justified because she once was robbed by a black man.
2. She LONGS FOR THE DAYS WHEN YOU AND MANY OF YOUR LOVED ONES WERE THE PROPERTY OF HER AND WHITE PEOPLE. She is not the one to defend for making slip of the tongue.
I never asked anyone to give her a pass. My point [[that everybody is missing) is that this is a cook. Not a head of state, not a civil rights advocate, a cook. How can anyone expect this person to be a Rhodes Scholar when it comes to history or race relations for that matter. She is known for using butter and cooking unhealthy food, that is all. I'm not insulted or offended, especially when I consider the source. Again, why give this any importance when there are so many more important things to be concerned about right now, like the erosion of our Constitutional right to privacy. I guess its ok as long as its being done under Obamas watch. All of this the intention of corporate owned media to get Black people distracted from what is really important in our lives and furthering the facade that this administration is looking out in the best interest of the American people.
And with regards to my comment on Hymie Town Jackson - my point is was simply that one can make it back in media even after saying racist comments. With Jackson in particular, his comeback [[did he ever leave?) was even more profound since he did the unmentionable which is to make a derogatory comment about Jews. That in 99 out of 100 times is the kiss of death for someone who spends their time on TV or in movies. If Jackson can comeback from that, you can bet that Paula Deen will be on TV again sometime soon.
What Paula Deen says, said, means or meant means less than nothing to me. Interpret her how you want, try to get into that giant, wrinkled head of hers. Go spend your time doing that. Meanwhile, turn on BET and be totally ok with our young people perpetuating the step and fetch it minstrel shows of yesteryear and the dumbification of language to make ourselves look like the ignorant ones.
It wasn't that recent. It's been a few years. Still, that idea was in her mind. She basically wanted to recreate the slavery days. She probably realized that no one would do it and nixed the idea.
But, i'm wondering what kind of Black people would work in such a restaurant. There was a lot of success for Blacks after the reconstruction, but I highly doubt any former slaves would run a place like that!
Funky, she's a FAMOUS cook who has/had lucrative deals with major companies! The is wealthy from being a COOK. So, yeah, it does matter what the says in public. It's why she is being punished now.
I kind of wonder why you seem to be sticking up for, or making excuses for her.
Jesse Jackson? He apologized. We haven't heard Louis Farrakkan apologize for his comments about the Jews' alleged "gutter religion".
Oh, add two more companies to that growing list: http://www.today.com/food/qvc-latest...een-6C10452621
Check out how often marv - Marysfan - DetroitLives313 uses the disparaging and inflammatory terms fag, faggot and sissy in his YouTube responses. Does any one else in this forum find marv's antigay slurs offensive? I don't care what marv's personal beliefs are, but if they lead him to spread hate by using derogatory homophobic slurs on the public music-sharing website YouTube, then his beliefs deserve to be publicly challenged. Do you think we should call marv out for his cowardly gay bashing? I feel it is wrong to turn a blind eye to a bigot just because he shares the odd rare photo and some Motown knowledge with us. I would like to hear what other forum members think?
Look you sad faggot Mary Wilson is iconic! She is one of the most influential women in music! She does concerts all over the World, performs The Lena Horne Project, has new single out and Cultural Ambassador for the United States. Diane Ross is a recovering alcoholic that leans excessively on her children. Oh and she tours some whenever she can get a gig. That's all!
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I don't even think about Diana Ross like most people until you fools on here start emailing me about her trashy ass. Mary Wilson rules and will continue to do so! Everyone loves Mary. No one loves Diane except a small group of faggot freaks stuck in the 70's.
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Why because I busted on you and your worship of that old fag hag Diane Ross? LOL! Could you pick a better washed up Diva to worship than Mary's former singing partner?
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Only a few fags care about Diana Ross today.
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Hey you sissy punk, just because you don't like women, doesn't mean you can get away with saying what you want. You will not be commenting on any more my videos........you've been BLOCKED!
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Fuck you! You big sissy punk!
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On 6/22/2013 marv2 posted the following about celebrity chef Paula Deen.[[all words in bold red are direct quotes taken from marv2's postings)
Racism is also caused by hate and an evil heart. It is intentional. While I agree with what marv wrote about Ms. Deen, I would ask marv if homophobia is also caused by hate and an evil heart and challenge marv2 to publicly answer if his irresponsible gay bashing is intentionalor just an involuntary condition of just not knowing about certain people?
On 6/22/2013 marv2 had the following to say about Paula Deen. I am telling you. Anyone giving this woman a pass for her blatant racism is making a mistake!
While I completely agree with marv on Paula Deen's blatant racism, I have to ask, if we give marv a pass for his blatant homophobia, are we also making a mistake?
Crystal, what do you propose we should do about Marv? His span of influence is not as wide as Paula Deen's. He doesn't have millions of fans that will think it's okay to be a homophobe because Marv is. Quite the opposite for Deen. Even now, like-minded fans are rallying to her support, even as she disavows her own words and beliefs. Homophobia [[and especially violence based on it) is vile and bad in its own right. With that being said, you are as watering down the issue of a very popular celebrity who admitted that she loves the thought of black people being slaves by making a false equivalency that Marv's hateful words on YouTube have the same impact.
I think you should have stared a separate thread about it.
I clicked on your links and did not see any videos where Marv allegedly used those derogatory words. In fact, there are no videos at all of him, just videos of mostly Motown artists.
I do not know Marv, personally, or know him like you all do. I just chat with him here. I agree that bigotry against anyone is wrong [[except obsessive, rabid Diana Ross fans :) ) Just joshin'...no i'm not...yes I am...
This sounds like a personal vendetta, so you really should start a different thread about it. If Ralph sees this, he'll shut doen an otherwise good thread where no one is arguing.
Hate is hate and predjudice, be it of a racist, homophobic or sexist nature, is still predjudice. I am pointing out marv's hypocrisy and letting the members here know what they are dealing with. Millions of fans or a few followers on a forum shouldn't matter. Hate and bigotry should never be tolerated.
I despise Ms. Dean intensly for her racist views but cowardly homophobia also disgusts me.
It's wrong to hate someone because of a quality they were born with and cannot change.
Again, if you have an issue with marv, and I know several of you do, please start a separate thread about it. Please? This one;s about Paula Deen. Ralph still checks in on this forum.
I have no personal vendetta against marv. I have been monitoring this thread for the past week and have to say I'm flabbergasted by marv's hypocrisy and felt exposing his homophobia was morally the right thing to do.
Would you like me to post the applicable Youtube videos where marv made the derogatory slurs?
As you correctly pointed out, all bigotry is wrong and my personal belief is bigotry should never be tolerated under any circumstances.
And the blood-letting continues: http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2013/06/28/...led/?hpt=hp_t1
Oh, and how could we forget about the food?: http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2013/06/26/...due/?hpt=hp_t1
Are you nuts?! Weren't you just banned from here and are now taking advantage of the fact that Ralph is moving as is offline a few days? You have a problem with me, bring it to me. This thread is about Paula Deen's racist slurs not about your perceived homophobia or whatever it is you're so upset about. You sound disturb to me. But if you want to come for me, bring it, come on!!!!!!
Crystaledwards, is an obsessive, rabid Diana Ross fan that Ralph recently banned from this site. There are about 5, maybe 6 guys like that here. But we don't to turn this into another "Dianah Ross" thread. These guy believe in free speech but only as long as you don't say anything unflattering about this particular singer.
Anyway, I heard that former Pres. Jimmy Carter has been allegedly advising Paula Deen during her public crisis.
My point that I have repeated ad nausem was simply that the focus on this subject as some earth shattering, major event was ridiculous - and that is still my stance. And why you think I could give a damn about Farrakkan is beyond me. Dumb bigots are dumb bigots, whether they look like Paula Deen or Rachel Jenteal! You seem to put the importance on the dollar they pull.
I am not an obsessive Diana Ross fan marv. I am simply calling you out on your hypocrisy. You rally against Paula Deen for her hateful racism and believe me when I say Ms. Deen deserves every criticism that is hurled her way. However, your behavior at YouTube is no better that Paula Deen's behavior. People who express hostile attitudes toward homosexual persons often are prejudiced against other minorities as well. What other prejudices do you harbor marv? Does it make you feel macho when you berate and taunt Gay people marv? Do you have children? Do you have brothers and sisters with children? Someday a GLBT person could be your own blood relative. Think about that next time you cruelly and viciously call someone a fag, faggot or freak marv. Gay people live normal lives in everyday America, They serve in our country's military, they pay taxes, and they contribute to the nation's well being on various levels. Stop the hate marv or your words could end up really hurting someone.
Anyway children...Mrs. Deen has lost about 12 business partners and sponsors. I'm sure there are more to come. I really am starting to think this is becoming excessive. I think she has gotten the message that her behavior is wrong, and her beliefs need to be challenged if she plans to continue to do what she loves for a living.
The single most important thing she can do right now is listen to people who try to explain why her words and views are so repugnant in 2013, and she needs to be sensitized to how they hurt and insult. It's not working for her to live in that "southern bubble".
I disagree with the experts that she should let her fans rally support because many of them are the same fans that support her because of her revolting views.
The messages the media, and her former business partners have made their point. When people see that she really understands, and makes the effort to change, then people will once again feel good about her brand. Her sponsors and business partners will come back.
I guess this is a lesson for all of us. Be careful because our words and actions may come back to bite us. Like the police captain used to say on Hill Street Blues after the morning briefing: Let's be careful out there!
I believe there are other reasons TFN dropped her so quickly. She was reportedly a prima-donna at the network, and they were still stung by the revelation that she is diabetic, yet cooks up food that contributes to the problem. She, and her food, represent the area in the country with the highest incidence of heart disease, diabetes, and obesity. Butter, sugar, and animal fat. You know, I see [[usually middle-aged and older) people buying tons of butter and sugar when it's on sale at the grocery stores. I can't help but think they watch her show.
Sadly, she's going to be martyred by her fans, who will double down on their own hatred. One of them already tweeted disapproval of Wal-Mart for turning it's back on a fellow Southerner.
No, she isn't done here.
Although I disagree with Jimmy Carter in his advice on handlinng the siuation, she needs to step away from the cameras and keyboard, learn about Black history and sensitivity to people different than herself, and make a sincere apology without the tears and shifting the blame.
I understand she already donates to good causes, to that's fine. She shouldn't stop that. And, it would really go a long way with many of her detractors if she gives credit to where a lot of the southern food she deals with really came from, and why. She could also come up with healthier, yet delicious ways of making some of those foods.
When she does these things, i'm sure most or all of those companies will come back, and she'll get a new cooking show.
No one is too old to change, and people can be forgiven. Remember This guy, Fmr. Gov. George Wallace?
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