That had to have been something like 37-38 years ago pre-
"Dreamgirl, My Life As A Supreme".........
Printable View
OK....I was at the game. I had a cousin injured in 9/11 and we drove out that day to be with his wife. They had just moved from Woodford to the big city and she was alone and petrified. MUCH of NYC was shut down. MANY people were, in fact, "in hiding." Enough people were not venturing out that delivery services of all kinds were beyond capacity for quite a while. "Nothing fazes New Yorkers" no longer applied as thosands suffered PTSD. Many were still in shock a week later. Anyone who suggests otherwise is either lying or totally misinformed. There was much trepidation as to when it would be safe to resume public events. With assurances from The White House that it was safe, The Mets game was scheduled with Michael Jackson as the #1 pick to sing God Bless America. That plan quickly fizzled and Ross, second choice, despite still being extremely affected by 911, agreed. I think everyone there was nervous to some degree. It was impossible to get to sound check - I tried everything. Security was layers thick which added to the unease. When Diana appeared, she was warmly received and admired for her bravery. If a diva of her legend was appearing in public as a possible target, they felt safer. A global icon with multigenerational appeal was needed, and it was the first home run of the night. While there are varying reports of how Liza became involved, I believe Diana helped with it as they had been friends for 30 years and, short of cash more than usual, Liza was paid if sh showed. She definitely energized the crowd more than Ross, but some of that was due to the fact that, by then, two hours had passed and the crowd was much more comfortable. Neither was in top form but Diana clearly was not at ease. Lastly, I'm very disappointed at anyone doing Diana vs_______ on this topic. As terrible as it was watching 9/11 on TV in Bloomington, BEING there 36 hours later was a slap in the face I'll never forget. My heart still goes out to everyone affected by 9/11, and my admiration for New Yorkers couldn't be higher.
thank you..you couldn't have been more spot on as to the reality..
some here acted like it was just another night out for NY'ers and they were judging which performer they liked better... NY'ers were still soiling their pants this close to 9/11, waiting for another shoe to drop., and were warmed by the notion of 'famous' people coming out of hiding, cos they were.. the big concert, which was in a controlled television studio, happened a bit after this 'turning point' event, perhaps because of the 'green light' provided by this event..
New York has always been a huge market for Diana and this was another landmark, stand up, hit the spot moment for her and New York. There was no reason other than the usual obsession to start trying to minimize it away or belittle it. We, especially Roberta, would have loved it if it were Martha. Marv would have whizzed himself if it were Mary and we all would have been pleased. The same respect should be accorded the lady who popularized Motown.
The difference being jobeterob I would have praised Martha Reeves without trashing Liza Minneli, Diane Ross or Mary Wilson and I would have kept the thread respectful in honor of those who die on 9/11. To trash Miss Minelli and call her a pill adict and to trash Miss Ross and call her a drunk who has vodka enemas is beyond disgusting and to turn a 9/11 healing performances by Liza and Diane into another RTL rehash is pitiful and shameful and disgusting and some on this thread ought to hang they heads in shame and ask God to forgoive them. Ralph out to ban Jimi, Marv and jillfoster for they vile comments.
3000 people died on Sptember 11 and all you care about is elevating and tearing down the performers who sang in the mindset of healing. smh in disgust.
Roberta
excuse me, robert, I started the thread in regard to 9/11 and a Motown performer..the caustic Liza comments were in response to an attempt to downplay my thread, even insinuating that people weren't hiding/fearful , just to make some convoluted Ross bashing point.. so don't lump me into thread bashing alongside those who showed up to bash the thread that I started in the first place..
My name is Roberta and with all due respects you could and should have taken the high road with this tasteless comment
"Jimi LaLumia Lizard what? Liza WHO??? ...[[you mean ,she did the FRANK SINATRA associated hit?) what trailer park is she playing at these days? national tour much? didn't think so.. she played[[stumbled around) last year on Fire Island to a room full of 90 year old denture wearers .. a real BIG STAR!!!... ha HA!"
Your comment encouraged jillfoster and marvs disgusting comments and then you continue to trash Miss Minneli on a thread related to 9/11 a day where 3000 souls were innocently slaughter.
You could and should have taken the high road Jimi but you didnt. May God forgive you.
Roberta
actually, I suppose marybrewster steered the wheel in that direction with this..
"Liza performed later in the game [[during the 7th inning stretch); naturally it was her signature "New York, New York".
You thought the crowd went crazy for Diana? They went NUTS for Liza. Good thing Diana went on first. "
..which brought this into who's better than who ville, and I was outraged that a 9/11 thread would take that turn, and knowing what was sure to follow, I did a pre emptive strike..
Liza Minnelli was singing along with a track anyway, anyone could hear it, and she was wobbling around, hardly respectful of that day's event... and she was paid to show up..so there ya go..
marybrewster didnt take the thread south Jimi and I never once said the crown went crazy for Diane. I respect Miss Minneli and Miss Ross and thank them for they patriotism that day but this was a somber and real sad occasion not a contest as to whos better or who the crowd loved more. No it was you and marv and jillfoster that took this thread to a disgustting low and on the anniversary of 9/11 shows you all showed no class and no dignity and no respect to the memory of those who perish on 9/11.
Thats all im going to say because I am still smh over you all's behavior.
Roberta
Marv- I couldn't agree more with you. Please, read your comment and try to apply it to Marv - absolutely the worst offender of all of the above - guilty beyond a reasonable doubt on many counts of those very offenses. Check yourself, boo.
Marv deserves this criticism.