By the whey, why the cheese, exactly?
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By the whey, why the cheese, exactly?
144man: good for you!!!
Some follow a high protein, low carbs diet [[eggs, lovely cheese, meats, fish, fowl, all allowed) and servings of vegetables [[broccoli, cauliflower, etc). Due to this diet your total cholesterol may, indeed, be higher but other parts of blood work show reductions in other things. This type of diet isn't for all [[no diet is) but it has its fans [[myself included). It also cuts out unnecessary sugar so insulin levels remain constant. And some experts are now pointing the finger at "sugar---bad."
I couldn't give up cheese!!!!!!
Wow. I have one thing to say about you, moe:http://whipplecards.com/sitebuilder/...RL-250x315.jpg
Just to share, my own diet is very similar to moe's suggestion.
The basis structure is to keep up the fluids at all times. First thing, I have a mug of warm water and lemon juice, followed by a mug of tea [[sometime decaffeinated, sometimes not) - then a protein breakfast. It can be bacon and eggs, ham, smoked salmon with lemon juice [[I buy the offcuts), that sort of thing. It stops me wanting to nibble on something sweet like a chocolate bar, although I do nibble from time to time [[coffee and chocolate. MMMM:o)
Mid morning - a mug of coffee [[I like it strong, with milk) with some mixed nuts. I mix them myself, keeping the ones with the most fat to a lower proportion, plus some dates.
It helps to follow up any coffees and teas with equivalent quantity of pure water.
Lunchtime, something with protein - chopped ham perhaps, or chicken, tuna etc mixed with light salad [[lettuce, tomato) - or in the colder months, soup, with added protein pieces - ham, chicken etc. Another large mug of coffee, followed by water.
Nuts and dates mid afternoon, with mug of tea.
Evening meal, similar, with more salad.
Just a balanced diet. I'm not diabetic, but do have to cope with blood sugar levels dropping quickly, so need to keep them well maintained. Keep vegetables up, keep the carbohydrates and starch in the diet but under control, keep an eye on fresh fruit eaten [[good for your energy, but even the natural sugar can add extra calories).
If I want to lose a bit of weight [[I just lost a quarter of a stone) I cut out bread [[cuts down bloating, but also cuts out the butter I put on it!), also cakes and biscuits, but still had a piece of cake when I felt like it [[but only when....) - cut out pasta and cut down on potatoes. I do eat cheese anytime I think my head might tolerate it [[!) but [[despite all the talk of 'hooch') can't take too much alcohol, although a nice wine is to my taste.
When I've dropped to the right weight, I then introduce all the things I like, but which might have 'empty calories', and just try to keep them under control. A little like when I was young - the choice of food available wasn't as plentiful and, because of that, I think we were all a bit slimmer!
A high protein diet, and regular eating [[little and often) prevents feeling of hunger, and a greater sense of wellbeing.:)
I'm not that scientific.
I just try to have as varied a diet as possible. I haven't taken sugar in tea for years, and I never add salt when a dish is served. I use skimmed milk and low fat spreads, eat plenty of fruit and vegetables, and try to avoid too much red meat or too many eggs.
I've forced myself into eating more reasonably sized portions by using smaller plates.
I'd never actually thought of my diet as 'scientific' but perhaps it is. If I don't have a 'plan' to follow, I tend to get engrossed with something else, and either not eat enough, or too much of this and that.
No, I've not taken sugar either for a long time, although I did substitute honey for a while.
Stopped smoking around 40 [[years, not per day!)
I do use butter instead of margarine. Some of the 'low fat' foods seem to have strange things added to make them tasty, to compensate for what has been removed.
I do find it helps if I eat slower. That way, I don't take too much extra before my body tells me 'enough!'
I have significantly increased the amount of fruits and vegetables in my diet this year. I was never much of a salad man until recently. Now, I enjoy fruit for lunch everyday and salad with dinner [[sometimes for dinner). I still manage to eat potatoes about once per week, which is a particular vice that I would like to lose. Without exercising much, I have lost 20 pounds this year. Sadly, I had much more than that to lose.
Salad is great, and you can be surprisingly adventurous with its components. I often use raw cauliflower. However , a low fat dressing is advisable. Honey & mustard is my favourite at the moment.
Potatoes once a week hardly sounds excessive, Jerry! :)
What you're doing seems fine, and also sounds as if you're on a reducing diet, before making some changes to your maintenance diet. And it's definitely working for you!
I guess you've had to face just how any excessive weight came to be there in the first place, and the word 'sadly' indicates the possibility of a little guilt/regret. Join the club LOL
Like I said: there is no "one" diet that works for everyone. If there was then everyone would shed those pounds. However, I can't agree with using low fat dressing. Not good on a low carb diet [[look at the contents and the values)
Why is it that men lose faster than women?
At my age, I feel that I want to enjoy my food. I read somewhere you have to be one-third overweight before it causes long-term health difficulties. Therefore I do allow myself the occasional bar of chocolate, usually at the weekend. Sometimes if you have a craving for a particular food, it's your body's way of telling you that you have a deficiency in some constituent such as bananas for potassium.
The main reason I decided to lose weight was because after walking I was getting pains in my knees, and I felt my legs might not be able to carry me.
Absolutely. Life is no good if we don't enjoy our food. And we should listen to our body - but also our instincts, especially when the '???' signals start to appear.
I think people often kid a little when on diets - like the number of cigarettes that smokers say they smoke.
Metabolism, and the length of time for the excess weight to have been gained, must make a difference in the time taken to lose it.
Not doubting you moe, but is it an actual fact that men lose weight faster than women?
I'm not on a regimented diet. I just use various broad-brush principles to govern what I eat; and it works for me without having to work out calorie intake.
I didn't know men lost faster than women, but when I lose weight quickly I put it back on just as fast. I generally aim for losing a steady two pounds a week.
I'd hate to have to actually calculate calories. Thankfully, not had to do it yet. What a bore....
Achievement of a target, whatever it is, does have a real feel-good factor:)
You men do lose faster. I believe it may have to do with hormones........more later
I don't like to think that what I'm doing is a "diet" per se. It's more like a diet change. My principles have altered with age and I've come to view life in general with different eyes. I'm less inclined to squash a bug in my house [[other than flies and spiders) than I am to put it in a jar and let it go. I don't step on ants or beetles or spiders that I see in the warehouse that I work without thought anymore, either. And I find that I don't want to eat meat. People assume it's because of religion or a desire to lose weight, but it's not. I'm not really sure what it is, but it's strong enough that I went cold turkey over a month ago without any pangs since then. Sadly, I'm still eating fish, but I see the day coming when that won't happen either.
Sounds like there's a heightened awareness of conscience working in there....or maybe, for whatever reason, just wishing for a brand new Jerry...:)
I don't much like the idea of eating animals, but that's the way we evolved/ were created. I like the taste of meat too much to give it up, but I hope the day comes soon when it is grown in tanks, and no animals have to be slaughtered.
Test tube meat is the creepiest concept of the 21st century. I'm actually okay with eating meat so long as it wasn't raised on a farm. I don't care much for eating something that you raised and cared for before killing it. If it wandered into your yard and a tree branch falls on it, let me know and I'll be there before you turn the oven off. Okay, that last sentence isn't quite true. But I do have an issue with trust and betrayal.
I've wondered about that issue myself but, if meat were raised artificially,it would of course mean that much of our domestic livestock would not be needed, and would disappear.
As even the animals which produce milk and eggs have to be slaughtered, the loss of the meat producing stock would seem to put us no further forward....
Beats eating Soylent Green, though, doesn't it? I don't know if you heard about it, but Soylent Green is made of people.
I find nothing creepy in test tube meat, and think its consumption would be preferable to causing the demise of a conscious creature. I hadn't thought about what might happen to existing livestock that was no longer needed.
I read Soylent Green years ago. Somehow I've never seen the film.
It does beat eating Soylent Green, Jerry - and I'm certainly aware of it - but it would seem that cannibalism still continues in certain parts of the world.
I don't have too much of a problem with the eating of meat, more the methods of slaughter of the livestock, which can't be allowed to die naturally. However, even human bodies can be subject to autopsy/partial rendering down after death so, to that point, I don't see a huge difference in the process.
At the risk of sounding insane: My problem with eating meat is based upon the role I see of a benevolent God who provides my needs for me. The 23rd Psalm kind of explains the relationship from the vantage point of the sheep toward a shepherd. My problem is that [[silly as it may sound) the relationship that the livestock has with the farmer is not much different than the relationship a pet owner has with a cat or dog - from the standpoint of the livestock, not the farmer. So, the cow comes to rely on the farmer to meet its needs. The farmer fosters this relationship with the cow. Ultimately, I'm somewhat disturbed to consider that my provider can be my murderer. It's not a religious viewpoint; it's more of a personal thing. I know that it's nutty to everybody but me, but it's kind of how I want to be at this point in my life.
Nothing insane or silly there at all, Jerry. I wouldn't say you're wrong, and also wouldn't want to change your belief.
I would gently submit that your sensitive feelings have much to do with your complex, intelligent perception of how a human should be towards animals, and of how the animals may be towards humans, but also perhaps complicated by the way that Nature, in fact, really is.
It's so late here it's early [[!) - I may need to explain later what I mean,and present it a bit better LOL
Sleep well everyone!;)
...........and another day begins!!:D
I'm just off to lunch.
Jerry, some more thoughts on your comments regarding the relationship between humans and domestic livestock.....
It is for man to use his 'superior' intelligence wisely, and to manage his livestock to the best of his ability, from beginning of their lives to the end. With intelligence and education comes responsibility, but the farmer also has to manage his livestock well for economic reasons. It's his business, and his livelihood depends on it.
In contrast, the livestock exist on instinct, and do not understand how the human/farmer thinks or feels. Their instinct guides them as and when necessary, and they simply accept everything as it comes. They respond well to good husbandry, and do not worry about today, let alone tomorrow, but will not thrive under poor conditions or management. Their overriding instinct will sometimes even cause them to kill the farmer, should he make an error in his management of them.
The animals have no need of a God, or to debate if there may or may not be one. Their instinct is simply to eat and reproduce. If food is provided by man, partially or in total, they accept it, if it is the food they want to eat. Otherwise, they will refuse it. If they do refuse it , it's not a personal feeling towards the farmer, in terms of any feelings that we humans would understand. They keep breathing and running until the very time comes to die,then they lay down, and await the end.
Life for humans is all about our perception, which works on countless levels. In contrast, the purring cat which rubs around my legs, apparently affectionately, is simply obeying her instincts, and marking her own territory. It is an accepted habit that I provide food, and she will continue with the arrangement [[and, in my eyes, my responsibility), unless something causes her to look elsewhere. I am her carer, she is my pet. I can view her as 'understanding' me if I wish, but she is still livestock. If, overnight, she were magically to increase many times in size, I would no longer be her carer. I would become her prey. If I were to die at home, the minute my heart stops beating, my body is of no use to me. If the cat is confined with my body and both go unnoticed, it is likely she will eventually, through her natural instinct to eat, then start to gnaw the parts of my body she can reach. That is the order of things, despite the endless sophistication of our lives.
They are all noble creatures. We should never let them down, lest we let ourselves down.Personally, in times when I am in need of some quiet contemplation, I can obtain all the inspiration I need from studying nature, and the cycles involved. In that way, I can understand how it works, and that I do fit in with it, and have a place which I must earn, as do all the infinite varieties of other species on the planet, including my fellow man. When the presence of any of us is no longer valid, we have therefore played our part, and become extinct.:)
Excellent post, WGB. As I grow older, I'm looking more into the dynamics of relationships. Trust, faith, and credibility are all very important to me and any breech thereof is troublesome. A cow will run from a predator, most animals will. However, a lifetime of nurturing and provision leads even that simple animal to do as it is prompted to by its master. Even as he walks it to slaughter. There's something about that that plays on my mind in a major way.
It's hard to describe why I feel the way that I do, but I feel better from a mental standpoint since I made my decision. I am cool with anyone who does not ascribe to my point of view because it's personal to me. I don't even try to convince people that I am right, but I am starting to view the world more from without than within and I want to believe that somehow I can make it better.
Yes, I can give myself a hard time over it too, which I then have to rationalise.
I do admire your viewpoint Jerry, as it seems to have been based on an increased awareness of the facts, rather than just simply selecting the meat in a supermarket, and blinding yourself to some of the rather more unpleasant details. Maybe becoming a vegan will be the ultimate result?
I have a feeling that you have an acute sense of injustice in your nature, and a heightened conscience.
Have you ever considered supporting your national society which oversees the treatment of livestock?
I have not given it consideration. I do have a strong sense of what I feel to be justice, but I'm also acutely aware of causes and the odds of success. Seeing the difference between how the US treats livestock vs. how it is maintained in the EU and Australia, I have no doubt that logic and common sense fall silent when confronted with the influence of money and people who want cheap meat. By the way, until a couple of months ago, I was one of them, so may God continue to bless them all. I could easily take up that cause but it would likely wind up being something to occupy my time without making me feel as if I contributed to anything better than what we have today. I'm not proud to feel that way, by the way.
You feel there is a signifcant difference in the treatment of American livestock, compared to EU and Australia? I would have imagined the lobbying to be quite strong.
See how it goes........
And I'm still awaiting moe's update on the hormonal reason why men lose weight faster than women.......
OK..........men's hormonal levels [[especially testosterone) and muscle mass tends to burn calories better then women.
I am jealous, westgrand!! I work my behind off staying in shape!!:mad:
moe, I hold my front in, trying to do the same thing....:)
Are you trying to make me laugh? You succeeded!!;)
I've got a good figure....until I stand up........
And I have the body of a man who is half my age. When I buy a shovel, I'm going to bury it in my neighbor's garden.
Ha! I remember how immature I once was but, looking in the mirror, I can see I'm now twice the man I used to be.....
Now, now... You're bigger than that, so stop kicking yourself. [[I know I am.) :[[