Mental Illness + cheap guns + endemic racism = ?

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Originally Posted by RobertZ

I'm not so sure about the "Always", Ms. Roberta. The children today spend hours on their phones and the internet, and the news is full of "politicians" babbling about "taking our country back" which is a codified mask for white supremacy. Then again the "at home" statement IS correct - because the young ones can be corrected by their parents if the parents are around enough to teach them.

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I hear you baby but children dont come into this world hating they learn hating in the home.

Fondly,

Roberta

Roberta

When you have angry people, mentally unstable people, racists, people suffering from severe medical conditions such as PTSD and schizophrenia and you give them easy access to guns of all kinds ~ you end up with these senseless acts.

It's a shame that they stay in the news for a day or two and are then replaced a week later by other similar stories.

It is amazing that a country that prides itself on being an outstanding example to other countries has such archaic and obsolete laws that do not protect your society at all ~ all in the name of individual rights.

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Originally Posted by marv2

I am not a bigot. You and your buddies can call me every filthy name to your hearts desire,but never call me a bigot!

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Hi Marv... You have never acted like a bigot. We have had some offline frank and reasonable discussion on this very subject a while back. You are well read. I don't see all the posts because of the blocking feature; but it is funny for someone that dislikes you there sure is much interest in your postings!

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Originally Posted by marv2

Now church lady, it is out there for everyone to see.............

I rest my case!

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Such vile language from a church "lady".

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Originally Posted by jobeterob

When you have angry people, mentally unstable people, racists, people suffering from severe medical conditions such as PTSD and schizophrenia and you give them easy access to guns of all kinds ~ you end up with these senseless acts.

It's a shame that they stay in the news for a day or two and are then replaced a week later by other similar stories.

It is amazing that a country that prides itself on being an outstanding example to other countries has such archaic and obsolete laws that do not protect your society at all ~ all in the name of individual rights.

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Individual rights until it comes to an individual wanting an abortion, to marry someone of the same sex, or vote without undue restraint. The people who claim to believe in individual rights are also [[by and large) those who want to tell others how to live. And as far as staying in the news for a short time, do you remember the 'outrage' after the Sandy Hook massacre? The politicians said that gun control was a bad idea and that they'd focus on preventing mentally deficient people from getting access to firearms. Take a guess as to how well they've done in that regard.

If a school full of dead babies and a church full of Christians can't shake this country up, then nothing will. The only thing that will give our elected officials pause would be someone shooting up a chamber of congressmen and senators. [[I didn't mention the president because I think they'd like that.)

Do not feed the troll!

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Originally Posted by detmotownguy

Such vile language from a church "lady".

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Really!!!!!!! Thats all you have to contribute? Nothing about the murder of 9 innocent people worshipping in a church gunned down by a racist and hateful and disgusting bigot. Smh just smh.

These statitstics should scare everyone. What the heck is wrong with the far right in this here country.

Cops Bought Dylan Roof Burger King Hours After Charleston Shooting…

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_7645216.html

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Originally Posted by Roberta75

These statitstics should scare everyone. What the heck is wrong with the far right in this here country.

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Just about everything's wrong with the far right, if you ask me! It's my opinion that the far right, the confederate flag, the NRA, the tea party, and many more examples are really institutionalized and "cleverly" hidden white supremecist groups.

What are some good ideas we can all use to keep the gun control and police brutality issues in the faces of the presidential candidates and also [[very important!) our local politicians in the coming months? I never vote for anyone anti-gun control -

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Originally Posted by RobertZ

Just about everything's wrong with the far right, if you ask me! It's my opinion that the far right, the confederate flag, the NRA, the tea party, and many more examples are really institutionalized and "cleverly" hidden white supremecist groups.

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Preach RobertZ preach dear. Everything you say is true.

Fondly,

Roberta

The mainstream media ignores this as an issue. They're just as afraid of NRA boycotts as politicians are of losing support. In spite of anything you want to believe, the nine people who were killed last week are as important to your congressman [[and mine) as the 24 dead babies at Sandy Hook - not at all. Neither do they give two shits about the 100+ thousand people who died by gunfire in the last ten years.

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Originally Posted by Jerry Oz

The mainstream media ignores this as an issue. They're just as afraid of NRA boycotts as politicians are of losing support. In spite of anything you want to believe, the nine people who were killed last week are as important to your congressman [[and mine) as the 24 dead babies at Sandy Hook - not at all. Neither do they give two shits about the 100+ thousand people who died by him fire in the last ten years.

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100% right; for most pols these holocausts are a photo op. But popular revolt just may bring down the confederate flag - so ultimately the NRA could be brought under control. The question is how. A group like Mothers Against Drunk Driving would be a start.

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Originally Posted by RobertZ

What are some good ideas we can all use to keep the gun control and police brutality issues in the faces of the presidential candidates and also [[very important!) our local politicians in the coming months? I never vote for anyone anti-gun control -

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They will keep themselves in the news! There will be others that will go out and commit mass shootings, in America racism is forever and the police are "frighten" blood thirsty goons from sea to shining sea! We don't need to do much.....................

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Originally Posted by Jerry Oz

The mainstream media ignores this as an issue. They're just as afraid of NRA boycotts as politicians are of losing support. In spite of anything you want to believe, the nine people who were killed last week are as important to your congressman [[and mine) as the 24 dead babies at Sandy Hook - not at all. Neither do they give two shits about the 100+ thousand people who died by him fire in the last ten years.

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Jerry, that is the truth. We all saw how much the murders of children at Sandy Hook, CT impacted lawmakers to enact tougher gun control laws.......................

Today from the NY Times:
"Since Sept. 11, 2001, nearly twice as many people have been killed by white supremacists, antigovernment fanatics and other non-Muslim extremists than by radical Muslims."
[[And that only accounts for killings)

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us...reat.html?_r=0

RobertZ, to put it in blunt perspective you have to consider that Americans use guns to kill 3-5 times more than died in the World Trade Centers and Pentagon attacks. We are by far the greatest enemy that we face but we move hell and Earth to stop the terrorists [[thank God!) but we do literally nothing to stop ourselves.

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Originally Posted by Jerry Oz

RobertZ, to put it in blunt perspective you have to consider that Americans use guns to kill 3-5 times more than died in the World Trade Centers and Pentagon attacks. We are by far the greatest enemy that we face but we move hell and Earth to stop the terrorists [[thank God!) but we do literally nothing to stop ourselves.

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We are a country of racists and hypocrites. Immediately following the 2nd World Trade Center attack aka "9/11", many Americans became outright hostile towards all Muslims and Middle Eastern peoples! Six years earlier when Timothy McVey blew up the Federal Building in Oklahoma, no one acted hostile towards white American males because of it. That is a fact!

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Originally Posted by marv2

We are a country of racists and hypocrites. Immediately following the 2nd World Trade Center attack aka "9/11", many Americans became outright hostile towards all Muslims and Middle Eastern peoples! Six years earlier when Timothy McVey blew up the Federal Building in Oklahoma, no one acted hostile towards white American males because of it. That is a fact!

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Excellent point!

I'll never forget the news reports about Americans of Middle Eastern descent who were harassed and terrorized in wake of the attacks. Most of them dressed in traditional garb and bore little resemblance to the killers, who dressed in Western clothing and were clean shaven so they could blend in with the rest of us. The people who attacked innocent Arab-Americans didn't even take effort to do their profile right.

The same way that a Black doctor can expect the cops to treat him the same way as they treat a Black gang member. All they need to see is your skin.

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Originally Posted by Jerry Oz

RobertZ, to put it in blunt perspective you have to consider that Americans use guns to kill 3-5 times more than died in the World Trade Centers and Pentagon attacks. We are by far the greatest enemy that we face but we move hell and Earth to stop the terrorists [[thank God!) but we do literally nothing to stop ourselves.

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Absolutely - there was just an article in the NY Times giving statistics about domestic terror victims here in the US being double the rate of foreign terror killings; and that did not even include "regular" [[sorry; a better word is not coming to mind) gun violence.