teases is right, but i do have a feeling it's right around the corner or i have been told that is the case
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teases is right, but i do have a feeling it's right around the corner or i have been told that is the case
Limited runs would certainly be a good idea as others have said. Look how much ya have to fork over to get some of the past releases that are out of print!
has anyone listened to the unreleased snippet that's on fb?
I guessed at "This Is It" for the unreleased clip [[Melba's song). No response though!
AHHHH....mysterysinger you might just be right...that's the song I was trying to think of...thank you.
UMG is a for-profit corporation that is here to do 1 thing - turn a profit for their shareholders. so long at products are profitable, they'll most likely continue to release content on those artists. there's 0 guarantee that product will continue and obviously they have the best insight into what is or isn't profitable.
i do have to criticize the fans for "not buying FG cuz it wasn't a real release." quite frankly that's a poor decision on your behalf and could jeopardize future releases. for those of you that are moaning and groaning about not having something to hold or that fact you'll only buy a cd format, that makes about as much sense as the people in the early 80s that said they'd never convert to cassettes or cd's from vinyl. the industry has made radical changes in the past 10 years. digital is here to stay.
for me the most important thing is to get the music, in whatever format. yes it's wonderful looking through a cd insert book. but remember the booklet with Farewell - it was huge. wonderful paper stock, lovely. made the pesky little cd booklets like like a kleenex. but here we are today, thrilled with that kleenex.
also keep in mind that if you don't buy a specific release, that'll impact the units sold which will impact their forecasts for future purchases of future releases. of course they also look at the content in the release - something big like A Go Go with several huge tracks on it would most likely outsell something more obscure like FG. but if we don't buy the FG's then we might not get the Sam Cooke's, or the CW&P or Broadway collections
one of the posts mention that the live set on Symphony was too similar to Copa. it's true that many tracks are repeated between the two. i actually find that quite interesting because although they're singing You're Nobody on both, the performance are drastically different. for Copa it was a relatively new song. one they'd been doing for maybe 4 or so months. plus it hadn't even been a year since WDOLG hit #1. by the time of the second live set, it was a little over 2 years since WDOLG and they were "old pros." the maturation between the two is remarkable and fun to listen to
I agree, sup_fan - I love having the ROOSTERTAIL show and find it superior to COPA in just about every way [[not that I don't still love COPA...)
"Tease" is certainly correct. It's been well over a year! Per the dictionary -- "To arouse hope, desire, or curiosity in without affording satisfaction."
i do have to criticize the fans for "not buying FG cuz it wasn't a real release." quite frankly that's a poor decision on your behalf and could jeopardize future releases. for those of you that are moaning and groaning about not having something to hold or that fact you'll only buy a cd format, that makes about as much sense as the people in the early 80s that said they'd never convert to cassettes or cd's from vinyl. the industry has made radical changes in the past 10 years. digital is here to stay.
sup_fan: while I do agree with what you are saying, and I was one of those that did NOT buy "FG" because it was not a physical release, don't you think it's the responsibility of UMG to at least promote these releases? Outside of those of us "in the know", how many casual fans know that it was even released? I know of long-time Supremes fan that had no idea there was even such a thing as an "Expanded Release". So while it's true that by supporting one release, it helps open the door to other releases, if we don't know these releases exist, how does that fall on us?
And what about the people that don't have the ability to dl music? Or the knowledge? My parents are of the Supremes "era". They know not the first thing about downloading music or printing a booklet. So I can see if we are talking about Beyonce or Taylor Swift; THAT generation does not buy CD's. But the generation where THIS music comes from; that's all they know.
I think UMG just needs to be straight forward and give it to us. Tell us that these will no longer be on CD format. Or "lease" these titles to a company, such as ACE, that WILL release them on CD format. If you can get "Partners" by Scherrie and Susaye, or "the Supremes 1975", you certainly should be able to get "Funny Girl."
Don't disagree really with anything MB says ~ but the whole landscape changes when in whatever format you buy today, those sales can get you into the Top 20 of the Billboard 200 whereas 20 years ago, those same numbers might have got you to #190.
Posted on FB this morning . . . Tired of teasers? So are we!
Ready for some real information?
Better yet, are you ready for your ears to hear the sweet sounds of...?
Join George Solomon and Andy Skurow this Tuesday, November 18 at 9 PM EST, 6 PM PST on Nightflight with John Perrone. All will be revealed! You will hear the debut of an expanded classic .... album. You'll find out what it is, and hear several of the songs, including the new exclusive bonus tracks. Find out ALL the details by streaming the show at www.womr.org
Who knows, we may even reveal the secret prior to the show. Stay tuned!
That sounds like a real treat.
How long has it been since Diana' s last solo expanded edition? January 2013, I believe.
I've read somewhere today it is coming out next Tuesday as an expanded digital edition? Digital only?
It's on Facebook.
What has me wondering is that even if it is digital only [[at this point), like Funny Girl… it was up in iTunes and Amazon a couple of weeks before saying that it would be released on such and such a date. So when Andy & George did the show, Funny Girl was already being promoted even though it came out the day of their pre-taped show.
Also the Facebook says they MAY reveal the secret prior to the Nightflight show.
Of course, who is say it may start out as digital only and then the cd could still come later. Also been wondering lately, if Andy & George are having to get another company to release a physical cd??? The interesting that is when reissues and remasters come out on cd from other companies like Real Gone Music, FunkyTown Grooves, etc., those companies NEVER get download rights and after they come out, Universal, Sony & Warner sometimes release digitally without the booklets that the licensors put together.
It will be interesting to hear the plans revealed!!!
I would be very disappointed if the release is digital only.
But part of me is beginning to acknowledge that it is mostly the old crowd wanting the physical releases.
Maybe there's a change that we haven't come to accept yet?
It's mentioned on the Steve Hoffman Forum. Someone has heard it apparently, as they specifically praise "Brass Band".
What us the Steve Hoffman forum? Is there a link?
I posted that for the Ross fans on that forum I know are looking for this set that don't visit Soulful Detroit and I am making an assumption that it's Tuesday since it hit the foreign stores with their weekly new releases. Watch Facebook, Andy or George for official info. It's their "baby" to deliver. i just lucked out in finding it in the Aussie Itunes store and can buy from it from the US early. It will be worth the wait.
Hey Everyone...
It just appeared available for sale on US iTunes at midnight for $12.99 with digital booklet!!!
I think i'll buy the Japanese edition instead. At least I will have something that really exists.
Just can't get my head around digital releases.
If Universal can't manage to make a release like this as a real cd - then why don't they lease it to one of the many companies that can manage to do it - and do it really well.
If this is how Universal is to run their business in future then I ain't buying it. I just don't get it.
The digital booklets are so frustrating. Besides the fact that they do not fit into a jewel case, printing them out front to back is a near impossibility. I would pay an additional $10 for an actual booklet. Another huge Motown/Universal disappointment.
Longtimefan, I had the digital booklet for Funny Girl printed at FedEx Kinkos; they printed it to scale as a CD booklet, using appropriate paper stock and the end result was exceptional. Just a tip, if there is a location in your area or another reputable printing establishment, this may work for you...
A tip on the digital booklet that I used on the Funny Girl release and that I plan to use for BIM. I saved the digital booklet as a PDF file and then saved it in iBooks on my iPad. I found this much easier than printing it and it is always there when you want to read it again. Obviously, you need to have an iPad. Good luck.
I have to laugh at all the times I see people saying that digital files don't exist. Of course they do. They exist just as much as the operating system and personal fata soes on your computer. You can copy them or lose them. If you want something more tangible, you can burn them on a CD-R.
Content holders are reluctant to lease masters of things they think will sell well. And, if they do, the cost is prohibitive to most small reissue labels. They can help offset those costs by having the owner of the masters press and distribute the reissue, but if it's someone like Diana Ross or Marvin Gaye, they won't do it. You might say those artists, or some of their content, are proprietary. However, there is always a possibility you would see a vinyl reissue down the road by either Universal or a smaller label.Quote:
If Universal can't manage to make a release like this as a real cd - then why don't they lease it to one of the many companies that can manage to do it - and do it really well.
Digital files are the way to sell content now that the CD is doing so poorly in sales. I know CD fans would like to think otherwise, but sales of the CD format keeps dropping every year.Quote:
If this is how Universal is to run their business in future then I ain't buying it. I just don't get it.
As for sound quality [[you knew I was going there), I would not buy a download from iTunes, Amazon, or 7-Digital. I would wait for Pono Music, download from Quboz [[for those that are able), or wait and see if the album shows up on HD Tracks. I like hi-rez downloads because I get the sound that's much closer to the master tapes, if not an exact copy of them.
Selling downloads is much cheaper than manufacturing CDs. It is dirt cheap to make a CD today, but when you factor in distribution, printing, and distribution to stores that really don't want to sell anything but new hit product, it gets expensive. What makes it worse for even people who like downloads is that streaming is very popular. Nothing to buy or download. No CDs or records cluttering up your living space. Nothing to own. That is the one that "doesn't really exist". You can't save it, copy it, or play in your car without a wi-fi connection, and you absolutely get no artwork. And, if, say, Universal ever decides to pull the music, you just can't get to it again. This is what the public likes and wants because it is also the cheapest option. Say, $10 a month!
The world is changing. You didn't think the digital world would stay the same forever, did you?
Diana Ross & The Supremes: Expanded Editions on Facebook:
Andy Skurow posted:
This is exclusively MFiT [[mastered for iTunes) and it will be available for download at Amazon in a few weeks. Most of the record companies have stopped CD production for catalog releases, so this is not specific to Diana Ross. We would also like to continue and complete the series physically. We are in talks with some third party labels to possibly print CDs [[including this and Funny Girl) in the near future. George Solomon will discuss it on Nightflight tomorrow [[Tuesday) on www. WOMR.org at 9:15 PM EST.
What a slap in the face - after all this wait, no CD! I truly hope that a third party will come into the picture to complete the series on CD - otherwise, I am officially done with buying these releases.
A digital-download only release sucks. You may remember I was very vocal about "Funny Girl." But I have resigned to the fact that this is the way of the world. Doesn't mean I like it; doesn't mean I agree with it. And it certainly doesn't mean I have given up.
I give Andy and his production team huge props for making these releases happen, in any format. It's sometimes easy to get caught up in pointing fingers; I know they are not the "powers that be" that have the final decision on whether these are downloads, or physical. But I know our voices are being heard. So keep the conversations going. Be respectful, and perhaps whomever is at the top of the food chain will see how much interest there still is. Andy has mentioned a few "surprises" tonight on MJ's show; listen in and see what it could be. I'd like to think that there's still some possibility.
Now, without stirring up the pot, do I dare ask if "A Go-Go" will be a physical CD?
I guess we'll see, maybe they had to pick only one to be on CD and maybe that will be the one? The only thing I'm worried about is if these digital-only ones are coming out only because they were already ready to go. They might not bother letting them work on any future ones. If this is the end, then they at least deserved a CD release.