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  BJL (bjl) 3-Pundit Username: bjl Post Number: 59 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 217.205.87.151 |
Hello friends, I have a couple of really nice deep soul Detroit 45s - and wondered if anyone can tell me about them (or recommend more D-town deep). Joe Woods: I Found A Love (Pts 1&2) (Hit Pack) Produced by Motley & Gist, Detroit address on the label. A good version of the Falcons hit. John Lee Hooker recorded a 45 on JVB in 1953 with a Joe Woods on piano - I wonder if it's him? Jay Davis: Half Alive (Pts 1&2) (Abbott) Produced by J J Barnes & Dave Jordan, NYC address on the label. Good, raw vocals with fine lyrics and tough guitar. Is this a Detroit recording? If anyone would like to see scans, then let me know. (Message edited by BJL on September 10, 2004) | ||
matt weingarden (mrfinewine) 2-Debutant Username: mrfinewine Post Number: 27 Registered: 8-2004 Posted From: 64.74.45.38 |
i've got both of those and they're quite nice. the jay davis reminds me of jj barnes...pretty sure it's a detroit thing. some other nice detroit deepies: disciples, "i found out" (fortune) a gospel screamer soul twins, "mr. independent" (back beat) is this detroit? sonny allen, "your love was so wonderful" (hit pack) lee "mr. dynamite" moore, "what goes up must come down" (riley's) most of the steve mancha stuff on groovesville plus his groove city single "hate yourself in the morning"/"a love like yours" nelson sanders, "i'm lonely" (rambler) stunning deep soul nelson sanders, "i'm tired of being your fool" (la beat) just as good at a fraction of the price lots more that i'm not thinking of at the moment... best, m | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 5-Doyen Username: acooolcat Post Number: 207 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.229 |
BJL Jay Davis's song was recorded in NY. I have an "Abbott" promo photo of him which he gave me when I interviewed him. He was also in The Moments that recorded on the Hit label in Detroit - and then The Tempos for Diamond Jim... The Final Decisions on Bumpshop etc. His name was James Davis and he's still living in Detroit. I'm interested in the Hit Pack label. I think this was a Sam Motley deal - distributed by Cosnat... maybe. I asked Sam about it but he couldn't really rememeber. I don't think I've seen/heard the disc you have. The only one I know of is by Sonny Allen - "Your Love Was So Wonderful" - that Mike Terry arranged. Please post a scan of both sides. I'd love to hear it! (hint) Another deep soul gem is the Just Brothers' 45 called "She Broke His Heart" that was released locally on Empire and then later on Music Merchant. I recently bought a 45 by Gloria Walker that I've fallen in love with: "Walking With My New Love." It sounds a little southern to me - nice guitar work! And I guess you've heard Betty Lavette's great 1975 song on Epic: "Thank You For Loving Me" That's enough for now - I've gotta get to bed! | ||
LarsC (the_norwegian) 3-Pundit Username: the_norwegian Post Number: 46 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 80.203.27.167 |
Graham; Are you getting the Just Brothers song titles (or labels) confused ? I have never heard of a song called "She Broke His Heart" on Music Merchant. | ||
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon) 5-Doyen Username: davie_gordon Post Number: 219 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 80.225.154.16 |
Graham, Lars is right - "She Broke His Heart" is from '66 issued on Garrison and supposedly also on Wand - Garrison was named after one of Scepter/Wand's promotion men. A brilliant record available on one of the volumes of "Dave Godin's Deep Soul Treasures" Isn't the Jay Davis record from roughly the time J J Barnes was recording for Perception ? Davie | ||
Mark Speck (mark_speck) 5-Doyen Username: mark_speck Post Number: 206 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 63.188.113.184 |
Matt--The Soul Twins on Backbeat are the same Soul Twins that recorded for Karen, so they are from Detroit (this from an article about the Soul Twins in Shades of Soul). The Duke/Peacock operation cut quite a few Detroit artists: Buddy Lamp, Little Carl Carlton, Bobby Williams, to name a few. Detroit City Limits once published a list of Detroit singles on Duke/Peacock and associated labels. Best, Mark | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 5-Doyen Username: acooolcat Post Number: 208 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.225 |
Yes, you're right, I got confused with the flip side - Things Will Be Better - which was released on Music Merchant # 1008. Another gem is Little Rueben's song "In The Name of Loneliness" which came out on the Detroit based New Records label. It sounds like a duet to me, but I guess he just overdubbed his vocals a second time. | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 6-Zenith Username: mel Post Number: 782 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.43.32.117 |
The just bros out for Garriso records 3003 was the flip to 'carle a' 'she broke his heart' was also cut for Empire 126214 with a great other side 'thi gs will get better' I have yet to see or be told of somebody actually ever seei g a copy for Wa d records although it is listed. mel | ||
Cool Ju (cool_ju) 4-Laureate Username: cool_ju Post Number: 96 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 205.188.116.138 |
Wish I knew what these records sound like! I really dig "I Found A Love." | ||
C Bell/Eric (c_belleric) 2-Debutant Username: c_belleric Post Number: 19 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 4.165.183.59 |
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C Bell/Eric (c_belleric) 2-Debutant Username: c_belleric Post Number: 20 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 4.165.183.59 |
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David Meikle (david_meikle) 5-Doyen Username: david_meikle Post Number: 384 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 62.252.128.19 |
five from Graham :-      | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 6-Zenith Username: mel Post Number: 802 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.154.129.165 |
also as above pics of these if poss 1152-ivories-please stay-mate has despe za copy Earl Harriso -humphrey stomp-1134-have a uk demo plus 1141-h/bees-lets get back together-mate has other copy. as Wa d 1144-just bros.all elusive if ever cut cheers mel | ||
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon) 5-Doyen Username: davie_gordon Post Number: 225 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 80.225.151.32 |
Mel, I suspect those records only exist on paper. They were probably intended for release on Wand and assigned numbers but at the last minute switched to Garrison. Davie | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 6-Zenith Username: mel Post Number: 808 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.153.212.92 |
Cheers Davie the blags that have circulated over the years,the usual for the sce e as you are well aware of mate. Just had to have a reply that was proper. Why I said I had a copy of 1 of the above............ cheers mel-still-with-the-crazee-mob | ||
David Meikle (david_meikle) 5-Doyen Username: david_meikle Post Number: 395 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 62.252.128.19 |
the image of this classic ballad is supplied by Graham  | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 5-Doyen Username: acooolcat Post Number: 216 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 203.69.208.7 |
I wonder if this Back Beat recording was cut in Detroit? | ||
Ron Murphy (ron_murphy) 4-Laureate Username: ron_murphy Post Number: 157 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.42.90.140 |
Graham: yes the Soul Twins were cut in Detroit and leased to Duke/Peacock and I have DAT copies direct off the master tapes which include about 12 tracks. | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 5-Doyen Username: acooolcat Post Number: 217 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.229 |
Thanks, Ron. That one sounds very southern. Carl Carlton told me he dubbed vocals (on some of his Back Beat 45s) down in Memphis, so it got me wondering. | ||
David Meikle (david_meikle) 5-Doyen Username: david_meikle Post Number: 399 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 62.252.128.19 |
Two more scans from Graham   | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 5-Doyen Username: acooolcat Post Number: 220 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.226 |
Thanks David Those last two records were included on a UK CD compiled by Dave Godin, titled "Deep Soul Treasures." I've just got the latest one - volume 4 - which is another must-have for all music lovers. Detroit is again represented with Smokey's "The Tracks of my Tears," and Ruby Andrews' "Just Loving You." | ||
David Meikle (david_meikle) 5-Doyen Username: david_meikle Post Number: 401 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 81.130.211.124 |
Graham Remember I bought a copy of Timmy's epic in Bob May's in September 2001? A rare event for me, but what a great song. David | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 5-Doyen Username: acooolcat Post Number: 223 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.226 |
Yes, David. It was fitting we later met George McGregor who confirmed it was cut in Detroit. The song has a distinct southern soul sound to it. That's the Funks! |
