By Musicchef (68.104.25.189) on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 03:09 am:

I need help in finding out about the group The Sinceres based near Philly. My mom just sent me a picture of the group and my dad is the guy in the lower right. Funny... I always wondered where I got my love of music from and I never knew that he was in the "business"... Then again, I never quite knew him either, he took off from the family when I was about 4 y.o. If any of ya'll know anything about these guys or him personally, drop me a line

Da Chef

P.S. If he owed any of ya'll any $$$, DON'T ask me LOL

By MEL&THEN SOME9 (217.14.178.54) on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 08:09 am:

Musicchef
there is a Sinceres track currently being played on the uk rare/northern soul scene called
"dont waste my time/girl I Love you'
on the PZAZZ Label(no.007)
worth around the 200 pounds mark.
Is this the same group?
regards
mel.
ps
great pic

By RD (63.188.33.11) on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 08:59 am:

MusicChef the Sinceres on Pzazz that Mel mentioned is not the group your father sang with. The Pzazz Sinceres' was the first recording by the group that became Bloodstone on subsequent releases and were based in Kansas City, MO.

Your Dad appeared to have sang with a Sinceres group that cut six singles on six different labels from 1960 to 1966. Do you know the time frame your father's group recorded and any of the songs. One label, Sigma, might be a Philly label but I don't know for sure.

By MEL&THENSOME (217.14.178.33) on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 09:01 am:

RD
Thanks for that
mel.

By RD (63.188.33.11) on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 09:10 am:

If its the group I think it is Dead Dog Records has two compilation CDs that each features one of their recordings; one is selling for $9.99. Don't confused them with the Texas based Johnny H & the Sinceres who also has a song or two on some comps available from DD.

By Musicchef (68.104.25.189) on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 01:21 pm:

Man... You guys are "en fuego" (on fire) on this site. I did a bit of checking around online and I came up with a Sinceres group in the Allentown area that had Jay Proctor from Jay and the Techniques in the lineup. On the back of the photo, the gentleman in the checkered suit my mom IDed as "Sweet Pea"... wonder if it's him...

Da Chef

By Scratcher (65.238.127.154) on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 01:43 pm:

Musicchef the guy in the checkered suit does look like a young Jay Proctor. If RD has the song titles he can check in B.M.I. and see what names pop up as writers.

By nikki (24.46.200.124) on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 02:40 pm:

The Sinceres on Sigma - "Darling" b/w "Do You Remember" (1960) is a "white" group. Lead singer, Bill Johnson, comes from the Boroughs in NY and last time I saw him (about a year ago), resided in Queens, N.Y. They are no connection to any other Sinceres group.

Nikki
http://www.harmonytrain.com

By Vickie (198.81.26.170) on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 02:51 pm:

Your photss and picture project are turning into a much bigger journey for you Chef!!

How very cool for you

By Scratcher (65.238.127.154) on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 02:55 pm:

Magic Chef do any of these names look familiar?

PLEASE DON T CHEAT ON ME BMI Work #1181679
Songwriter/Composer Current Affiliation CAE/IPI #
BECK JEROME
CARROLL ELIJAH
MALLOY JAMES EDWARD JIM BMI 34729087
MALLOY WILLIAM
Publishers
EMI LONGITUDE MUSIC BMI 353951547
VINCE RAGO MUSIC BMI 25254505

The above song came out on Richie Records.

Nikki is right there were a white Sincere Doo Wop group who also recorded "Ookie Kookie," which was written by the same guy who wrote "Gitarzan?"

I checked the Soulful Kinda Music site and they list the white Sinceres' Sigma recordings with the ones that the Jay Proctor Sinceres' recorded as well. But what's confusing is that on another site it says the the Sinceres was a white band and that Proctor was a backup singer with them.

By Musicchef (68.104.25.189) on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 03:03 pm:

Psst... Nikki I just went to your site and you have one of our piccies on your site LOL. Look under the Crests and for the "PoPsie" logo in the lower right hand corner. BTW, I just talked to Johnny and the guys (as the Brooklyn Bridge) and we are working on releasing a limited edition of signed photos. If you want to use more photos, let me know and just throw a link back to our site at www.popsiephotos.com as a courtesy. I'm NOT going to bug ya for any $$$, because you're doing it for luv not money and we only pester the corporations (Sorry Harry)

Da Chef

Here's one "on the house" of the Crests

By Musicchef (68.104.25.189) on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 03:07 pm:

BINGO !!!!

William Malloy is my daddy !!! *dancing wildly* so, I guess now my next thing is to go find a copy of the song.

Vickie: This is becoming QUITE the magical mystery tour indeed... Maybe I should write a book *wink*

By Scratcher (65.238.127.154) on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 03:13 pm:

Music Chef, the other side is "If You Should Leave Me" written by the same four. The songs on the compilations on the Dead Dog site appears to be the white group.

By Musicchef (68.104.25.189) on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 03:29 pm:

Thanks for all of the hard work, Scratcher and if you ever need anything photowise from me, just ask !!!

Da Chef

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 05:02 pm:

Musicchef - Chef, Whatcha got on David Ruffin?

By Musicchef (68.104.25.189) on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 05:16 pm:

Unfortunately, The Temps or any of the soloist from the group never crossed "PoPsie's" path. But we are still scanning stuff from the "archives" and I'm planning a trip to the stash soon (located in NJ). I'll keep ya'll posted

Da Chef

By MEL&THEN SOME (217.14.178.9) on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 05:19 pm:

Sorry to start this thread off with the wrong group Musicchef
hope it didnt throw you.
many thanks once more to the experts
mel