New R. KELLY album

SoulfulDetroit.com FORUM: Archive - Beginning April 17, 2003: New R. KELLY album
Top of pageBottom of page   By HW (12.110.192.128) on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 03:01 pm:

I posted a similar message at boards.motown.com but thought the folks gathered here would like to know about this new album, as below:

Normally I wouldn't say much about the new cats out there although I like a lot of the new soul singers. But I am raising my hand here for the new R. Kelly album, 'CHOCOLATE FACTORY.' (And we're talking about the MUSIC and the SINGING here.)

It's a fantastic evolution of soul music, with echoes of all his influences. Several tracks have a strong 70s Motown vibe, especially Marvin's on the cut "You Knock Me Out," which beautifully and hypnotically combines for the new millennium the groove and subject matter of Got To Give It Up and After The Dance. "Heart Of A Woman" also shows an honest vulnerability we don't often hear in an era of macho posturing.

So, imagine my DELIGHT when I read the credits to track #13, a locally (to Chicago) flavored 'steppers' remix of "Step In The Name Of Love." It says: 'Strings and Horns Orchestrated, Arranged & Conducted by Paul Riser. Orchestra: Hart Hollman & The Motown Romance Orchestra.'

The first run of the album comes with a bonus disc of five tunes bootlegged last year. Track 3, "The World's Greatest," bears the same credits.

Mr. Riser also did the same for R. Kelly's smash hit, "I Believe I Can Fly," in 1996.

All right!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ronny (68.74.14.34) on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 03:30 pm:

R. Kelly should jump off a bridge!

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 04:35 pm:

I loved "I Believe I Can Fly.". Other than that I haven't heard anything else by Kelly. I saw him on a video with Celine Dion. If I could just get that one track "Step In The Name of Love." I would be pleased.

Top of pageBottom of page   By John Lester (81.132.25.69) on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 05:45 pm:

Ok Mr W

So you know my Achilles heel....

Top of pageBottom of page   By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 06:48 pm:

HW is right on about this album. Despite the legal problems R. Kelly may have created for himself, "Chocolate Factory" is probably his best piece of work.
I did hear "Step In The Name Of Love" which salutes the Chicago Stepping tradition and the arrangement knocked me out (kudos to Mr. Riser). Kelly's "operetta" with Ronald Isley is also worthy a listen (part ballad, part drama).
R. Kelly is one of the FEW (and I do mean FEW)current artists who turns to veterans and legends to create fine music.

What's interesting is that "Ignition" is the only song that follows the now-tired "Bump & Grind" formula. I do hope, if anything, that Robert Kelly deals with the demons that challenges his soul and being so that he could live a good life and continue to create fine music.

Regards,
Kevin Goins - KevGo

Top of pageBottom of page   By fayette (64.12.97.7) on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 08:03 pm:

everytime i get ready to type on this post
i change my mind hmmmmmmmm

Top of pageBottom of page   By HW (12.110.192.128) on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 11:12 am:

Just remember, my post was about the MUSIC and the SINGING...

Top of pageBottom of page   By Livonia Ken (136.1.1.154) on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 11:18 am:

I have trouble getting past the extracurricular as well, which is a shame because I like what I have heard. Just can't see myself sending money in that direction, though. :(

Regards,
Ken

Top of pageBottom of page   By john dixon (205.188.209.38) on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 11:30 am:

Ken, I agree. I was in my local record store the day it was released and they had already sold out and many people came in asking for it just while I was there. There have also been a couple of articles in the press this past week speculating that R.Kelly's extracurricular foibles are actually spurring sales, which I find very troubling. For me, kid touchers don't exactly fit into the rebels-that-you-admire category.

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 12:18 pm:

HW - We understand that Harry. I will hear the CD because my neices and nephews will no doubt get the CD, and Kelly has great talent.

If I had the money back then, as does my neices and nephews, I would have a treasure of LP's and 45's, which would include that jazz I used to listen to but couldn't purchase. :o)

Top of pageBottom of page   By HW (12.110.192.128) on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 12:40 pm:

Ken - do you own Let's Get It On?

:)

Top of pageBottom of page   By Livonia Ken (136.1.1.154) on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 02:29 pm:

Harry,
At least three versions, and I await the rumored SACD. :) How the line gets drawn for me is somewhat muddled, I will admit, but I will resist detailing it here.

Regards,
Ken

Top of pageBottom of page   By stephanie (64.63.221.181) on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 10:05 pm:

R KELLY may have his problems but he does turn to the veterans and I have to give him credit for that.
Stephanie

Top of pageBottom of page   By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 11:39 pm:

"Chocolate Factory" #2 on Jet's Top 20 Albums.
"Get Rich Or Die Tryin'" #1.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Brendeeva (205.186.134.200) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 01:53 am:

HOW MANY TIMES CAN R. KELLY JUMP OFF THAT BRIDGE?

Its really a shame how we embrace people like him. Such reprehensible acts and people are still supporting him and his appetite. No wonder today's children are so confused. This a classic case of rewarding bad behavior. PLUS HE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT CAN'T CARRY A TUNE IN A BUCKET!!!!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Brendeeva (205.186.134.200) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 02:00 am:

HOW MANY TIMES CAN R. KELLY JUMP OFF THAT BRIDGE?

Its really a shame how we embrace people like him. Such reprehensible acts and people are still supporting him and his appetite. No wonder today's children are so confused. This a classic case of rewarding bad behavior. PLUS HE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT CAN'T CARRY A TUNE IN A BUCKET!!!!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By hw (68.37.220.95) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 07:11 am:

Can't carry a tune...? Are we talking about the same person?

Top of pageBottom of page   By CM Wolff (68.60.188.16) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 06:11 pm:

HW-

Thanks for the R. Kelly recommendation. I picked it up solely because of your shout-out, have been listening to it pretty straight for two days now, and I am really connecting with it. Love all the vocal arrangements - if Marvin were still with us, I would think (and hope) he would be doing something along this line. Fantastic stuff. (By the way, I am also enjoying Angie Stone's latest as well as Syleena Johnson's two albums that you similarly recommended elsewhere.)

CM Wolff

Top of pageBottom of page   By Eli (205.188.209.38) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 07:36 am:

R. Kelly's Chocolate Factory is indeed a great album. Let's get past the negativity and enjoy and appreciate this great cd.
Right on H.W.!!!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Julian (205.188.209.38) on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 02:04 pm:

Somebody gave me a boot last summer (I know I should not have accepted it)of Loveland. There was a song on it where R. Kelly sounded JUST LIKE Stevie Wonder. When it came on I just had to stop painting (what I was doing at the time) and stare at the cd player because I thought a Stevie song had been placed on the disc. Did this song make it to Chocolate Factory?

So many positive reviews, I'm gonna go get Choc. Factory today.

I remember hearing on the cd that I had clear emulations of Marvin Gaye and Sam Cooke.

Kelly may have personal issues but he is definatly representin' the old school. Definately.

(Hey, he even covered Stevie's "Hey Love" back about a 12 years ago or so.)


I

Top of pageBottom of page   By deborah (152.163.188.68) on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 08:13 am:

Questions for our posters? If you had a neighbor living next to you and he could sing like R. Kelly but he was a supposed child molester. Would
you over look the problem. Or would you enjoy his
music.? I personally liked Mr. Kelly music, it had a message of hope. But when we have daughters
that are 14/15 wanting to buy that music. I think
it sends the wrong message to our loved one. Mr.
kelly made a wrong decision, and he must now deal
not with one of music, but of a personal one. he's just a man, not a hero...

Top of pageBottom of page   By Sly Fan (64.169.106.229) on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 08:15 pm:

Being from the "New School" it feels really good to hear you guys show love to R Kelly. I was just talking with someone about Kelly the other day on a musical note. Kelly has something that a lot of these young artist dont have and thats "stayability". Also he really knows his music and there is care behind every song that he does going back to the old 4 play album. This cat is not about gimmicks and thats what today's R&B sound is like today...But there is hope. People such as Jill Scott, Rapheal Sadiqq, Peven Everett and Cody Chestnutt,etc. are bringing back the essence of plain good music with substance.

Chocolate Factory is da' bomb!!

Its all about the music.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Sly Fan (64.169.106.229) on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 08:25 pm:

PS: Kelly's situation is what it is but they are two sides to a story, we cant jump to conclusions. That doesnt take away the fact that he is a talented cat. Besides, some of the great R&B artist from back in the day STAYED in the news and not in a positive light(ask JET magazine or Ike Turner).

Parents raise the kids not the artists. It starts at home.

Lets keep the music alive.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Sly Fan (64.169.106.229) on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 08:33 pm:

The Syleena Johnson album is great too!! For those dont know that is the great "Sock It To Me, Rock It To Me" Syl Johnson's daughter!! Its in the genes!!

Peace.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Livonia Ken (165.121.213.106) on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 08:40 pm:

I think putting money in the pocket of a guy who has the problems that RK is alleged to have is sending the wrong message as a parent. I'm starting at home by not doing or encouraging this. If I later become convinced that he is not a danger to anyone, I may change my mind. Your mileage may vary, and I'm not going to try to convinve you otherwise.

Regards,
Ken

Top of pageBottom of page   By Bassn for God (24.158.71.34) on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 08:55 pm:

I have heard it all over this forum, How great the Funk Brothers are as people. They are also outstanding musicians, but if they had problems like R.Kelly, ,they would not be in my house. I love the Lord and R.Kelly, as far as that goes I love you all, but I can not support or condone such actions by anyone. If it was a one time thing, I would think it might be a bad mistake, but this isn't the first trouble with regards to very young ladies. With that said, it is my own opinion and how I feel. I have heard his sound and I really like it, but no way will I support his habit. If he changes his way, I to can change. I hope and pray he can change his focus back to a career of sweet soulful sounds.

Top of pageBottom of page   By CM Wolff (68.60.191.82) on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 11:45 pm:

I am loving the R. Kelly album - best thing I have heard so far this year. If we are going to debate the effect of his personal life, I will have to haul out the "trust the art, not the artist" cliche that I tend to rely on. I never feel a need to overlay an artist's persona over his/her music - the music is either connecting with me or it is not- everything else is a non-starter.

While an artist's personal life has no impact on whether or not I enjoy his/her music, I am not ignorant to the fact that, in purchasing music, I am supporting that artist and his/her actions (for good or bad). While I rather not cast an economic vote for artists with dubious character, I feel an even larger responsibility to support good music. In that regard, I think a greater good is being done in purchasing smart and soulful music such as R. Kelly's.


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