Sunliners -- Question for Ralph

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Top of pageBottom of page   By Fury13 (209.69.165.10) on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 07:21 pm:

Ralph, who was the guitar player for the Sunliners in about '62? Nathaniel Mayer says it was he who did the wild guitar work on "Leave Me Alone."

Top of pageBottom of page   By Fury13 (12.2.196.17) on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 07:14 pm:

(Bumping this toward the top in case Ralph didn't see it...)

Top of pageBottom of page   By ... (12.2.196.17) on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 10:58 pm:

???

Top of pageBottom of page   By Kegtapper (65.56.119.251) on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 11:46 pm:

Doesn't the TeraShirma site here show the 62 pic of them show the correct lineup?

http://soulfuldetroit.com/web03-terashirma/01b-tera%20shirma-thesunliners.htm

The guys that went over to Motown and became The
Original Rare Earth group. (f = founders)
(f) Gil Bridges - sax, tambourine, vocals
(f) Pete Rivera - drums, vocals
Rod Richards - guitar, vocals (1966)
John Parish - Bass, tambourine,
Kenny James organ. Electric piano (1966)

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 09:39 pm:

Fury,
I just now found this thread. I apologize for my tardiness. In 1962 my brother Russ played lead guitar in the band. Also, there is some misinformation regarding the founding of the band. The band was founded by Fred Saxon, Russ Terrana and me. As far as the Nathaniel Mayer song, Russ may have done it but I don't remember.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Fury13 (12.2.196.17) on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 10:46 am:

Thanks Ralph.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Lynn Bruce (65.60.200.153) on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 10:37 am:

Ralph,I could be wrong,but I think Rod(Cox)Richards left the group I was working with in 64 (not 66) to go with the Sunliners.

Did you ever have any regrets about your leaving the Sunliners when they started touring as Rare Earth,with a hit.

Slainte,y Salud,Lynn

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 12:35 pm:

Lynn,
Rod Cox did join the band in 66 replacing my brother. Kenny James ( Folcik ) replaced me at the same time. I suppose I gave it a thought or two when the band was pulling down 15 grand a concert and I was slugging my way through Tera Shirma heading on to Motown. Actually, while I was at Motown, the band did approach me about coming back. Kenny was having marital problems and they wanted to replace him. I was torn with this offer. So much of me wanted to go back to the band but a greater part of me was loyal to Harry Balk. they eventually went with Mark Olson. Retrospectively, I think I made the right decision. The band would fracture in so many ways that the decision to return would not have been a very good one.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Lynn Bruce (65.60.200.153) on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 01:02 pm:

Ralph,when the Hurricanes left Johnny,we had our passports ready for a tour to Europe,but we were sick of doing the same songs every night over and over,only in different cities.We wanted to be a bar band for a while just to play different tunes!! When we found out that he had worked with the Beatles in the Starr club in Homburg,Germany,we all had that same torn feeling.Like maybe we should have held off for a while,but we were doing so well,still traveling on the road doing clubs and shows,I guess it didn't matter.
Except now I can't say I partied with the Beatles.
It's funny how a simple choice can change your life.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 02:15 pm:

Lynn,
The Beatles came into the Peppermint not long after we had been there. I always wished we had hung around a little longer so we could swap stories with them.

When I played with Johnnie in 73 or 74 I kind of felt sorry for him. He always seemed so uptight on stage. I know he was desperately trying to renew his career but it just wasn't happening at that time. One only has to realize that music had evolved and to be stuck playing simple 3 chord rock was not the direction most decent musicians were willing to go. He finally disbanded the band and we lost touch after that. I always liked the guy and have thought of him through the years.

Top of pageBottom of page   By john c (12.2.233.107) on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 03:00 pm:

Ralph,

Who is doing the vocals on the Sunliners track on the Rare Earth Anthology? It doesn't sound like Peter.

The early (pre "Get Ready") Rare Earth tracks on that anthology don't sound like him either. Was there another vocalist or did his singing just mature.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 03:09 pm:

John,
I'm not sure. I would have to hear it. Pete's vocals weren't exclusive to the band. Gil Bridges did some as did John Parrish. For the most part Pete has always sounded like Pete no matter what time period.

Top of pageBottom of page   By john c (12.2.233.107) on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 03:52 pm:

Thanks Ralph. I didn't know Gil and John also sang so that could be it.

The name of the Sunliner's track is "I Just Cried" if that rings a bell. You played keyboards on it according to the credits.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 03:58 pm:

John,
before i picked up yor last post I was thinking that I would like to know the name of the track. You beat me to it pal. Unfortunately it doesn't ring a bell even though it says I played on it. Sorry. I'll think on it and maybe one of my feeble memory cells will kick in and give me the answer.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Dennis Coffey (205.188.209.38) on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 06:24 pm:

Hello everyone. I did play some guitar parts on the Dreams and Answers album by the Sunliners (Rare Earth)released on MGM.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Dennis Coffey (205.188.209.38) on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 06:27 pm:

Hello everyone. I did play some guitar parts on the Dreams and Answers album by the Sunliners (Rare Earth)released on MGM.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Davie Gordon (193.122.21.26) on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 11:20 am:

John C,

I played "I Cried" last night - that's definitely
Pete Hoorelbeke on lead vocals.

Top of pageBottom of page   By john c (12.2.233.107) on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 03:30 pm:

Thanks Davie. His vocals sound much more confident by the time they did Get Ready.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Fury13 (209.69.165.10) on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 04:56 pm:

OK, I talked to Nathaniel last night... I believe he said the guitar player on his record was someone named Chuck and that he played with Rare Earth... who would that have been?

Maybe Nathaniel was mistaken...


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