|By PhilH (22.214.171.124) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 04:22 am:|
OK, how about this idea? (Prompted by my thinking about Joe Cocker under "When Singers Cry")
Joe Cocker (of course!) "With A Little Help From My Friends"
Wilson Pickett "Three Time Loser" and "Hey Jude"
and a somewhat more obscure Deep Soulie:
Kim Tolliver "Taking A Woman's Stand" on her Chess lp
Not forgetting: Levi on "Bernadette" (though a shout rather than a scream).
|By Ritchie (126.96.36.199) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 04:47 am:|
The original "I Put A Spell on You" by the man whose name says it all - Screamin' Jay Hawkins!
|By Vonnie (188.8.131.52) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 06:55 am:|
2 words James Brown, good foot
|By dvdmike (184.108.40.206) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 07:01 am:|
The Dramatics - the intro on "Get Up And Get Down"
Lloyd Parks of Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes on "I Miss You"
Ernest Wright of Little Anthony & The Imperials on "Two People In The World"
|By john dixon (220.127.116.11) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 07:08 am:|
ok, I know this isn't soul or r&b but at the risk of being the recipient of cyber scorn and derision I must say the obvious: Robert Plant's bone-shaking wails on "How Many More Times", "Whole Lotta Love", and "Immigrant Song".
|By Ritchie (18.104.22.168) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 07:49 am:|
Not scorn or derision, but a tad of regret that every half-baked heavy metal hero since appears to have followed his example :o(
|By john dixon (22.214.171.124) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 08:17 am:|
no disagreemant there Ritchie; my head hurts too when I think of what Plant hath wrought.
|By Nish (126.96.36.199) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 08:38 am:|
Linda Jones - For Your Precious Love
Jackie Wilson w/ Dominoes - I'm Gonna Move To The Outskirts of Town
G.C. Cameron w/ Spinners - It's A Shame
David Ruffin - I Miss You
Those are 4 of my favorite soul screams that immediately come to mind.
|By Livonia Ken (188.8.131.52) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 08:38 am:|
The Stooges - TV Eye
James Brown - Super Bad (I think that's the one where Jame's squeal blends into the beginning of a crazed free-jazzy sax solo, right?)
|By Nish (184.108.40.206) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 08:39 am:|
oh and "In the Hands Of The Lord" by the Five Blind Boys
|By Joe Moorehouse (220.127.116.11) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 08:47 am:|
Steve Correll's backing scream about 2:45 into I Need You by the Rationals. It's been giving me chills since 1967.
|By R&B (18.104.22.168) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 08:48 am:|
TALK ABOUT SCREAMIN,NOBODY DOES IT LIKE LITTLE RICHARD,I THINK HE MADE IT AN ART FORM.
|By TonyRussi (22.214.171.124) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 08:50 am:|
James Brown 45 opener of "Give It Up(Turn It Loose) and "Mother Popcorn", "Lost Someone"(Live Version Apollo Vol.1). Tina Tuner "I Idolize You".
|By john dixon (126.96.36.199) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 08:52 am:|
ahh....R&B, one of the joys of life--a Little Richard scream dovetailing into a Lee Allen sax break!
|By Common (188.8.131.52) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 09:14 am:|
Hey Jude by Wilson Pickett (lots of screaming towards the end!)
Blood Donors Needed (Give All You Can)-David Ruffin (some serious squalling & screaming on this cut!)
Shop Around-The Spinners (G.C. doing some serious soul shoutin!)
Power-The Temptations(Dennis doing what he does best!)
|By Uptight! (184.108.40.206) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 09:21 am:|
Nish and TonyRussi took the words right out of my mouth with a couple of their mentions. These are some of my favorites:
G.C. Cameron w/Spinners "It's A Shame"
Ike & Tina Tuner "I Idolize You"
And many James Brown tracks! Eeeeyyoooww..!
|By mc5rules (220.127.116.11) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 09:43 am:|
On the album "Here, My Dear," Marvin Gaye screams ex-wife Anna's name in the most heart-wrenching way...one of the most emotional moments ever captured on record.
|By MEL&THEN SOME (18.104.22.168) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 09:47 am:|
Tommy Neal really lets it go in 'going to a happening'.
|By MEL&THEN SOME (22.214.171.124) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 09:52 am:|
or what about
Sarah James(and the soul babies)when she almost shatters every glass around when she really lets it go on the Faro recording called 'Takin' Care of Buisness'.
|By douglasm (126.96.36.199) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 11:13 am:|
"Who's Making Love" Johnnie Taylor
A blusey sung/scream that seemed to be an intregal part of the "Memphis" soul sound.
|By Livonia Ken (188.8.131.52) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 11:20 am:|
The whole ending of John Lennon's "Mother" where he keeps screaming "Mama don't go/Daddy come home" gets progressively rawer each time he does it through the fade-out. He was going through primal scream therapy at the time, and got a record out of it even if he didn't get peace of mind. The "Cold Turkey" single has more evidence of this as well.
|By Nish (184.108.40.206) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 11:43 am:|
I'd be remiss not to mention Wilson Pickett singing lead on the Falcons' "I FOUND A LOVE," LAWD can that man sing that song. "Sometimes I call her in the midnight hour... YEAH YEAH!" Mercy!
|By Davie Gordon (220.127.116.11) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 11:47 am:|
Johnnie Taylor - the opening to "Who's Making Love"
|By Steve Litos (18.104.22.168) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 12:00 pm:|
How about Otis Redding on "Mary's Little Lamb" which is his version of Mary Had a Little Lamb?
At the end of the song, Otis wails "Come on Mary!!!!!" while other background singers bleat like lambs!
|By Eli (22.214.171.124) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 12:27 pm:|
I have the pleasure of of knowing Mr. Pickett personally for over thirty years and also have had the pleasure of being in the studio with him in various capacities.
The first one being on the song Engine # nine (long version) where I am doing this wild guitar solo and he yells out"hah!!play your guitar son"!!
Truly a memorable moment in my career.
He has recorded several of my songs and I had the distinct pleasure of producing him in the studio.
What happened was was that I was commissioned to produce a duet session for Jackie Moore and Johnnie Taylor. Jackie and I flew to Dallas to do the vocals which were remarkable.
shortly after I returned home I received a call from the record company and they said that Johnie was upset because he thought that Jackie was outsinging him!! The record company,taken aback by his pompousness wanted to know if I could reccommend any other soul singers and right away Pickett came to mind.
So I rang him up and next thing I know my late wife and I were sssitting at his kitchen table eating catfish and greens that he was whipping up
while in the company of two giant Dobermans licking their chops, and not necessarily for the grub. Afterwe ate I played him the songs which were a duet version of Precious, Precious and a song called seconds.
After hre heard them he said "Lead me to the mike
mo********er"!!! So I said "you got it mm********er"!!!!
So I booked the time at Nola Studios in NYC and they proceeded to record the vocals. They were both feeling no pain as there were several opened bottles of Courvossier on the table.
So when Pickett got into it I have never in my life heard such a scream fest in or out of the studio!! He sounded like a banshee giving birth an elephant!!!!!
I came over the talkback and said "yo Pickett, can you lighten up a little"?
And he said"yo mo********er this is what I do, I am the wicked Pickett and its my s**t!!"
So I gingerly kept the more "commercial" screams in during the mix.
Once he was appearing at the Lone Star cafe in NYC and I went over there with a friend who was a fan of his and sixties deep soul.
I told the doorman that I was a friend of Picketts and he told him that I was there to see him.
Suddenly I heard the loudest voice eminating from the upstairs dressing room saying..
"Bobby Eli,??, tell that white mo********er to come on up!!" So we went on upstairs and Wilson with drink in hand proceeded to say,
"hey Eli, I just fired those mo********ers in my band" But then he went downstairs and he rehired them!!
Ah Pickett, you gotta love him!!!
|By Eli (126.96.36.199) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 12:29 pm:|
Gospel great Shirley Ceaser...great scream especially on the word Jesus.
|By TonyRussi (188.8.131.52) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 12:46 pm:|
Bobby Eli, that is so killer.Did Pickett & Jackie Moores duet get released?I'd love to hear it.I met Pickett in '66 and he let me sing with his band.I did "Uptight" and "Working In A Coal Mine" because I had the sheet music.He said it was good and had me sing on his show that night at the Orlando Auditorium.I was not self-confident enough to be an entertainer but I can write and I really wanted to be a writer at Motown.Pickett really gave this 14 yr old a thrill though.What a nice guy he was to me, he knew I was a real fan.He also liked my blue paisley pants.Pickett is a real soul shouter and You Got Down on Engine#9.
|By STUBASS (184.108.40.206) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 01:05 pm:|
DENNIS EDWARDS...A NOTORIOUS SCREAMER (MEANT ONLY IN THE MOST RESPECTFUL WAY) ON, "CAN'T GET NEXT TO YOU"!!!...
|By Eli (220.127.116.11) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 01:56 pm:|
It was recorded for the Catawba label owned by former Stax and Columbia veteran the late richad Mack who was a world class wonderful soul.
He and his wife Fannie were gracious people who knew how do do it the right way.
I will try to get you a copy
|By LTLFTC (18.104.22.168) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 02:10 pm:|
There are contenders and there are pretenders , but for sheer otherworldliness , who can top JB?
There are too many examples to name (the extended version of Cold Sweat comes to mind) but the version of "Bring It Up" on the "live at The Garden" lp has to be the topper. These aren't musical, rythmic accents like in "Payback" or the like. This is straight-from-the-slaughterhouse floor stuff. I'd expect sounds like this to come from someone being buried alive - beyond primal.
Special props go to Little Richard ; note that each pre-sax solo scream is SLIGHTLY different than his others.
For full-bodied lower register gutturals, I've got to go with Arthur Lee of Love on the song "Singing Cowboy", which never fails to make the hair on my forearms bristle. Arhtur's a pretty versatile vocalist
Honorable Mention in that category goes to the J Geils Band's Peter Wolf on a live version of "Lookin For Love"
|By cleoharvey (22.214.171.124) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 02:34 pm:|
This is may not count as a scream but it is a note that was hit that sounded like a "wail in the night." On the Aretha Franklin version of You're All I Need To Get By, when Lady Ree gets to the line "cause we've got the right Foundation" listen to the note she lets out on the first syllable of "foundation." It is absolutely spine tingling. I once read in a Rolling Stone article that it was the highest belt note ever sung on a hit record at the time. As a matter of fact, I am going to listen to it right now.....
|By douglasm (126.96.36.199) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 02:39 pm:|
OK, let's top Led Zep...
..."When The Music's Over" The Doors, when Morrison brings the band back up to full volume at "now....now.....NNNOOOOWWWWWW!"
|By stillsoulin (188.8.131.52) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 02:51 pm:|
hi all, first contribution. For me the ultimate scream has to be pretty purdy on the opening of "song for aretha" on flying dutchman records.
|By Eli (184.108.40.206) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 02:59 pm:|
Not really a scream per se, but Barbara Ingrams moans on Love wont let me wait especially on the fade where she lets out this squeel akin to a pig in heat!!!!
Major was also mentioned on the most understated thread...talking about paradoxes!!!!
|By john dixon (220.127.116.11) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 03:09 pm:|
douglasm, I'll try to match your Jim Morrison in the R'n'R sreaming sweepstakes; how about Roger Daltrey's "Yeeeaaahhhh!" on "Won't Get Fooled Again"? (currently playing in a tv commercial near you)
|By Randy Russi (18.104.22.168) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 03:14 pm:|
Bobby Eli--I love your Wilson Pickett story. I
also like Jackie Moore and bet that's a GREAT
recording you did with these two artists.
I'd have to say, any scream by Pickett, Bobby
Womack or James Brown does it for me.
|By TonyRussi (22.214.171.124) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 03:38 pm:|
Bobby Eli, you must know Dee Dee Sharp?Now that lady can sing!
|By BCNYC (126.96.36.199) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 03:40 pm:|
Stevie in the intro of "Signed, Sealed, Delivered"
Bobby Womack huffing and puffing in "If You Think You're Lonely Now"
Jimmy Ellis of the Trammps in the tags of "Love Epidemic" and "That's Where the Happy People Go"
Millie Jackson in the tag of "If Loving You is Wrong"
|By thecount (188.8.131.52) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 04:10 pm:|
The Falcons---"I Fond A Love" with that,as ELI
would say,BAD-M-----RF----R,Wicket Pickett,
no breaking of tones ever in his tones or notes
|By Fury13 (184.108.40.206) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 06:03 pm:|
Little Richard. His scream just before the sax break in "The Girl Can't Help It" is one of the all-time best!
|By TD (220.127.116.11) on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 11:46 pm:|
|By philH (18.104.22.168) on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 03:35 am:|
A few more (inspired by all your comments):
Tina Turner "A Fool In Love"
Gospel great Marion Williams - just about anything, but especially "Surely God Is Able", her debut with The Ward Singers (and Little Richard always says he got his WHOOOH! from her)
James Walker or Ira Tucker (I'm not sure which) of The Dixie Hummingbirds on "In The Morning".
|By PhilH (22.214.171.124) on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 03:39 am:|
I forgot one - the part on Aretha's version of "Ain't Nothing Like The Real Thing" where she screams out "let's stay together".
|By Jonel (126.96.36.199) on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 01:10 pm:|
Ali-Ollie Woodson, on "Treat Her Like A Lady", "Hoops of Fire", "Lady Soul" and just about any other song he leads. The man can squall.
|By cleoharvey (188.8.131.52) on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 01:34 pm:|
Just remembered another Aretha Franklin bone chilling wail. Listen to the Curtis Mayfield produced and written song "I Get High" on the Sparkle album. She is simply remarkable. You know a friend of mine once said to me, I heard Aretha on television the other day and her voice is not what is used to be." And I told him, "Listen my friend, Aretha with half a voice is worth more than all these dolls with full voices. She doesn't have to prove anything anymore, she has already done it!"
|By Mark Speck (184.108.40.206) on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 12:22 am:|
An unlikely screamer, simply because we know him more for his guitar instrumentals than his vocals:
"Why" by Lonnie Mack.
|By Julian (220.127.116.11) on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 01:45 am:|
The Falcons "Oh Baby"
|By John Lester (18.104.22.168) on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 03:42 am:|
Didn't Marvin Gaye make it his signature...
I think someone must have stepped on his toes when he was recording "I Wish It Would Rain" and what about that "wooo" on That's The Way Love Is from one of my favourite albums of all time...."Thats The Way Love Is"
Also what about out "You"...... and "Chained" - all great Marvinism's there!
and guess what
"Oooo, I bet ya wondering how I knew......."
|By ErikT.O. (22.214.171.124) on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 06:46 pm:|
Hey everyone, what about Marva Whitney? On 'Sugar Bear', some other singles I've heard & especially on that 'Live & Lowdown at the Apollo' lp, damn could she wail! Another that comes to mind is Freddie King, I have videos of him where he's standing about a foot away from the mic and he's coming through as loud as ever... up there with JB & Wilson Pickett for best shouters ever, in my sometimes humble opinion...
|By Uptight! (126.96.36.199) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 06:01 am:|
John Lester: They did say Marvin had bad feet. Maybe the screams were inspired by achey corns. LOL
|By John Lester (188.8.131.52) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 06:13 am:|
Ok Uptight! I bow to that - good one! lol
|By Jim Feliciano in Detroit. (184.108.40.206) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 08:56 am:|
Here's one that was a REAL SCREAM--anyone remembers THIS one... from the summer of 1966 ?
"YOU'RE GONNA MISS ME" by the 'THIRTEENTH FLOOR ELEVATORS'
Man I gotta say, the 'lead' singer used to just 'wail'(he had a very irritating high 'pitch' note) thruout the entire song like he was in extreme, 'excruciating' pain to the tune--hey, I could never stand it!
Nervertheless, in Detroit that was a HUGE, WKNR "KEENER 13" smash hit, back when... it sold a lot of records locally, as it elevated to the #3 spot on the WKNR Music Guide for "the week of"
August 29, 1966.
By any chance you have the 'THIRTEEN FLOOR ELEVATORS' CD, go play it, crank that 'sucker' all the way up and you tell me... "was it live, or, was it MEMOREX?"
"YOU'RE GONNA MISS ME"
The 'Thirteenth Floor Elevators'
INTERNATIONAL ARTISTS Records #107
Debuted on WKNR "Keener 13", August 8, 1966
|By douglasm (220.127.116.11) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 10:32 am:|
.....excellent choice. Starts out yelling right at the open, then really gets into it at the harmonica break. I get horse just thinking about it.
|By Patrick (18.104.22.168) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 12:36 pm:|
I still think that one of the most famous screams on record is Roger Daltrey's scream on Won't Get Fooled Again.
|By Jim Feliciano in Detroit. (22.214.171.124) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 01:11 pm:|
Yes, and you're right....
I recall that particular "You're Gonna Miss Me" number was an intense, very 'high-enery' song which might of evolved from the earliest "garage-punk" gendre, a "first-generation" transition of sorts, quite like no other 'sound' heard on the radio back when, and, slightly "ahead of it's time"... for 1966.
Question: The 'Thirteenth Floor Elevators', didn't they hail from southern Texas?
|By douglasm (126.96.36.199) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 02:17 pm:|
...Austin. The record has a bit of a history which I won't get into, except that International American, it's most sucuessful label issue (It was on Hanna-Barbarra at one point) was a country label.
Try this. www.Flagpole.com/Issues/09.28.98/ort.hmtl
I think I've got it right. The history of the single is described here.
|By john dixon (188.8.131.52) on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 08:45 pm:|
Jim and Doug, I spazzed in delight when I first saw the movie, "High Fidelity"; the opening shot is a closeup of a stereo tonearm lowering onto vinyl and "You're Gonna Miss Me" begins. The movie had me with that opening shot. Coincidentally, several years back on an episode of the X-Files, the lead guest character was named Roky Erikson! Man, his life has been a nightmare; I wouldn't wish it on a Frenchman. I also love that deranged but rocking material he cut with Stu Cook (of CCR) producing after Roky's, er,incarceration period. Songs about aliens, alligators, zombies, a two headed dog, and the Creature with the Atom Brain. Rocky had one of the great rock and roll voices; those unearthly yet controlled screams, yet he could take it down and sound like a natural Texas progression from Buddy Holly and just break your heart.
But I never heard "You're Gonna Miss Me" on the radio growing up. I first heard it in '77 when I bought the "Nuggets" double album. Very nice one Jim F.
|By Jim Feliciano in Detroit. (184.108.40.206) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 08:19 am:|
Thank you, Douglasm and John Dixon...
For that interesting little 'bit' and of your comments on "Roky Erikson"... and Doug, I will certainly take a minute to 'research'the added 'page' you've recommended above.
|By john dixon (220.127.116.11) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 09:40 am:|
hey Doug, I tried that address you posted several times to get the backstory on "You're Gonna Miss Me" and kept getting a "this file cannot be found" banner...
|By john dixon (18.104.22.168) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 09:43 am:|
hey Doug, I tried that address you posted several times to get the backstory on "You're Gonna Miss Me" and kept getting a "this file cannot be found" banner...
|By john dixon (22.214.171.124) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 09:45 am:|
computer froze up on me; sorry for the double post!
|By douglasm (126.96.36.199) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 10:40 am:|
....I had that problem a couple of times too. Fuzz Acid and Flowers----www.borderlinebooks.com--has a pretty good history of the band, although not as complete for the single.
|By Jim Feliciano in Detroit. (188.8.131.52) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 11:10 am:|
Hey, maybe I can 'add to' in further, so let's try the (above) Douglasm *LINK* again...
Then go to "PART TWO" for more of the 'story' of the 'band', right here:
This should take you there... !
|By douglasm (184.108.40.206) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 11:14 am:|
....thanks. Appreciate your covering my mistake.
|By john dixon (220.127.116.11) on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 11:27 am:|
Great links, Jim and Doug, thanks. "You're Gonna Miss Me" should be playing daily on any radio station that purports to be rock and roll.
|By medudsa9e (18.104.22.168) on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 07:20 pm:|
ha ha, what about Chaka Khan on Through the Fire?
WOW, she really uses her Lungs,
Aretha Franklin singing "United Together"
Pattie Labell "Over The Rainbow"