|By Bill (22.214.171.124) on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 10:26 am:|
I saw Russell Thompkins, Jr. ("The Voice Of The Stylistics") in concert last weekend (Valentine's Day) and was totally "blown away" with his performance. He sounded as good as "back in the day!!!" Russell has put together his own group of Stylistics (whose choreography was excellent) including former member Raymond Johnson. In addition, the band (led by keyboardist Kenny Thompson) sounded superb and "tight." Russell sang all the big hits plus album cuts "Point Of No Return," "It's Too Late," "Children Of The Night," and my personal favorite "You're As Right As Rain." Russell and his group received two (2) standing ovations from the audience in Baltimore- check them out when they come to your town, you'll be impressed!!!
|By deb (126.96.36.199) on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 11:41 am:|
Yes RUSSELL Is back..Strong with his new group! He is the Original Lead Singer of the Stylistics.
They were GREAT in Baltimore..You have to see them.I saw both Stylistics.NO Doubts,THE ORIGINAL WILL ALWAYS BE THE BEST..Check them out..Get the word out that Russell is Back!!!
|By Wonder B (188.8.131.52) on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 02:08 pm:|
I heard on the radio that they are going to perform in L.A soon...
|By MusicLoverinLA (184.108.40.206) on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 03:57 pm:|
Yes, it's true... Russell Thompkins, Jr./Stylistics is back and going strong. There is no duplicating that rich, smoothe voice that made all of our great Stylistics songs what they were and still are today. Look for them to come to your city soon, and make sure it's Russell Thompkins, Jr. (the "Voice of the Stylistics") on the lead. You won't regret it!
|By DavidS91 (220.127.116.11) on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 05:59 pm:|
Anyone know when he's going to be in LA? My wife and I had one of our first dates at a Stylistics concert in Redondo Beach back in 1990... would love to see him again!
|By thomas (18.104.22.168) on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 07:48 pm:|
TO SEE THE STYLISTICS ON THE WEB GO TO LARRY-STRONG.COM . THERE IS A UK VIDEO OF THEM PERFORMING. ITS A FREE SITE JUST PAYING TRIBUTE TO THE FANTASTIC GROUP.
|By MusicLoverinLA (22.214.171.124) on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 08:30 pm:|
Davids91 (and Truefansfromeverywhere),
Russell and his new group were in L.A. during the Valentine's Day weekend, but are working on coming back soon. In addition to this thread, come join us at www.Soul24-7.com (Stylistics/Russell Thompkins, Jr., thread). You'll always know where Russell will be appearing next.
|By Piano M AN (126.96.36.199) on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 09:57 pm:|
I am Piano Man on the soul24-7.com/mb/6530.htm
I am Russell's Music Director.Come and join the thread.We are trying to get back there sometime in April (if all goes well)..We just left there opening up for the Whispers..It was great..YES Russell is back.REMEMBER! There are 2 Stylistics,IF YOU SEE RUSSELL NAME ATTACH TO ANY FORM OF STYLISTICS,THEN YOU ARE COMING TO SEE THE REAL DEAL...COME ON OVER TO OUR SITE..AND TALK TO ALL OF THE GROUP MEMBERS AND BAND AND EVEN HIS WIFE...TALK TO YOU LATER..
|By CEASAR THE TYMES (188.8.131.52) on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 10:11 pm:|
I SAW RUSSELL AT THE TROPICANA IN ATLANTIC CITY.
HE IS BACK WITH A VENGANCE. I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A STYLISTICS FAN.IF HE IS EVER IN YOUR AREA,DON'T HESITATE TO GO AND SEE THE SHOW.HE IS TRULY ONE OF MY ALL TIME FAVEROITES.HE HASEN'T MISSED A BEAT.TAKE IT FROM ONE WHO KNOWS.
|By Clef (184.108.40.206) on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 08:40 am:|
Yall gotta read the forum on soul24-7.com/mb/6530.htm
. It is deep
|By fayette (220.127.116.11) on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 05:10 pm:|
i had the chance to see russell thompson and the
stylistics here in atlanta at the auditorium
when i was 14 years old. i remember thinking
he had the most clear falsetto voice i ever
heard, i've seen eddie k, ted mills and a few
others but there was just something special
bout him.and he had the most beautiful
glistening eyes i ever seen. well to make a
long story short, he is my favorite falsetto.
he voice don't crack.
|By LadyMystique (18.104.22.168) on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 07:14 pm:|
Did y'all sample his new CD on Maurice Watt's website...excellent indeed!
Stylistics are one of my favorite groups! I hope to see them soon myself!
|By Destruction (22.214.171.124) on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 07:25 pm:|
Bill and deb,
I was home. You guys coulda broke off a piece for fellow Bmorean to get in. But nooooooo....saved it all for yourselves. I'm glad it turned out well....don't forget me the next time....LOL.
I'm a huge Eddie fan....but props where props is due....I saw them at the Armory, years past their popular period and I gotta agree with you.
|By jrlo (126.96.36.199) on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 07:28 pm:|
Thanks for the info!! I love Russell as well as the Stylistics! I'll keep my eyes peeled...hopfully he will be out this way soon!
Someone told me (now I know it's a rumour) that Russell retired because his voice was strained frm hitting those high notes for so long!
Guess you can't always believe what you hear!
|By manny (188.8.131.52) on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 07:58 pm:|
Hello again, doulful friends!
It's very funny: you says Russell Thompson from The Stylisyics. (And, also, Marshall Thompkins from The Chi-Lites?) (Smile!). I also sometimes says Stanley Kubrick when really wanna says Stanley Clarke!
About the Stylistics i likes this group a lot, from i acquired the "People Make The World Go Round" 45 at my teens to now. Finally i was some tired because i heard the "Rockin' Roll Baby" album" too much ("Could This Be The End", could be MY end, make me fool!)... But, when time passing i heard it again and enjoy it again (or more!). Something similar happens with the two compilations by Pickwick Intl. (one by Bell-Creed period, another by the Hugo & Luigi period). More recently i acquired a PIR compilation with very good ballads as "Should Be Lovers". And about the falsetto by Russell, in "The Lyon Sleeps Tonight" and "Hey Girl", IMHO, is at their best. BTW, about the quality songs, i prefer their Bell-Creed Avco and TSOP sides, despite the fact Russell sings a little more "bass". I have read that Thom Bell suggested him to sing more bass when begin to working together.
Long live to the STYLISTICS!
Peace & Soul Food
|By Bill (184.108.40.206) on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 10:10 pm:|
Here's the web link for information on Russell's solo debut release (Forevermore Records):
|By FJT (220.127.116.11) on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 01:23 am:|
Hello to all the SoulfulDetroit forum fans. I am glad to see that Russell's reintroduction to his wonderful and dedicated fans is also going strong on this site. As PianoMan, MusicLoverinLA, and Bill have stated, Russell is back with a vengence. His one true mission is to deliver to the public the sound they have come to know and love. It is true that his voice was burned out from performing for 30+ years, singing all the songs, doing all the studio work, not getting much help from the other guys. But with a few months rest, he regained his vocal capability and as people in California, Baltimore, Boston, Virgina, Philly, Lancaster can attest, he has come back stronger than ever. He thanks all of you for your dedication and support. Visit the the soul24-7.com site for info on upcoming dates. Russell will also have his own website sometime in March. I hope to see all of you there.
FJT (the wife)
|By bigdaddyg2k4 (18.104.22.168) on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 04:36 pm:|
I never saw the Stylistics in concert, but I always enjoyed them on CD and radio of course. Good to hear that Russell is back with his version of the Stylistics and a solo album as well. He's got a very distinctive voice that no one has, and that's one of the reasons why I enjoy listening to the classics of the Philly sound.
|By Bill (22.214.171.124) on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 08:52 pm:|
That's great news about Russell's forthcoming website! I had been meaning to ask you if that was "in the works." Thanks again for keeping us updated with the latest information.
|By corrie (126.96.36.199) on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 11:20 am:|
until i see russell thompkins live hopefully soon. I went to the website LARRY-STRONG.COM AND SAW RUSSELL THOMPKINS SINGING YOU MAKE ME FEEL BRAND NEW LIVE WITH A IMPROVASATIONAL ENDING. CKECK IT OUT.
|By IBY (188.8.131.52) on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 08:04 pm:|
Hey gang I am here. Glad to see that there is another site for Russell.
|By LC (184.108.40.206) on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 10:21 pm:|
I saw the same show that Cesar of The Tymes saw in Atlantic City. Russell did such an excellent job singing and performing, I understand he was ask and book to return and do it all over in Aug. of this year.
That's the way to do it Russell. I also understand he will be touring with The Whispers later this year.
That's the way to do it and keep it going Russell.
|By fayette (220.127.116.11) on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 05:53 pm:|
i'm just bursting with pride for russell
to me he is the best falsetto in the world.
wish i could see him. heyyyyyy why these
people not coming to atlanta. besides the whispers
was here recently. we wanna see soulful
70's slow jam too.
|By Piano Man (18.104.22.168) on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 09:01 pm:|
If you see a show that comes to your town and it says '70'S SOUL JAMS'..then you are getting the other Stylistics..It is not Russell group..Russell is the real deal...Save your money and wait until Russ get there...
|By FAYETTE (22.214.171.124) on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 10:18 pm:|
THANKS PIANO MAN
|By IBY (126.96.36.199) on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 11:19 pm:|
I've seen this new group of Stylistics several times & although the lead singer has a great voice, he cannot be compared to the original voice which belongs to Russell Thompkins Jr. Personally speaking the replacement singer (Mr. Brown) does not have that certain sound that I normally hear when listening to their old albums. I have said several times that when I listen to this new group of "Stylistics" something is missing. Maybe its just me but Eban Brown does not sound anywhere as good as Mr. Thompkins. To me, that cat on the web-site is much closer to mimicing Mr. Thompkins voice than Eban Brown. I am also begining to believe that the fans are being misled in believing he has that certain sound, when in reality he doesn't. I guess the fans who actually goes to their shows are actually people trying to get out of the house and are not actually true diehard "Stylistics" fans. If you listen closely and have a good musical ear you can tell the difference between the two. Russell is tops. I've been a fan for more than 30+ years and when listening to Airrion & Herbs "Stylistics", I do not hear that certain sound anymore. To me this group of "Stylistics" is nothing more than a talent show cause they do not have the real deal nor that certain sound that I am accustom too, but again this is my opinion. I am not a hater and really do wish the young man (Eban Brown) who replaced Russell much success in his musical future, but again he is not Russell & nor do he has the same crisp, smooth, purity, quality and richness that Russell has. When it comes to falsetto singing, Russell is second to none and therefore can never be replace. Russell is the best in the business.
|By fayette (188.8.131.52) on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 11:25 pm:|
i HAVE the 70's soul jam dvd, and the new
;ead singer sounds like russell with a
southern accent.believe me i know one lol.
just listen when he singing stop look listen
and he say the word time.
|By Eric (184.108.40.206) on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 11:35 pm:|
Eric: I never got to see the Stylistics in concert in the seventies, but I listen to their songs enough to know that the group were one baddest out there at that time and to me I personaly believe that they still are. Russell Thompkins in all honesty made the group not taking anything from the other members,but he simply carried the group. I am also glad to hear that Russell is back and his vocal pipes are as strong as ever and look forward to seeing him and the new formed Stylistics. Before I end my message I like to know is there going to be a problem as far as the name goes of the Stylisitc who has actual rights to it. Some folks might say " What's in a name, but a name might mean everything to a solo artist or group. Oh well I guest time will tell
|By FJT (220.127.116.11) on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 01:30 am:|
There already is a problem with the use of the name. The way it looks now, is that all 5 original members should have the use of it. It's getting hot and heavy. Stay tuned!
|By PhillyGroove (18.104.22.168) on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 09:50 am:|
Hello FJT (the wife),
Thanks for the invite to jump to this thread for a few questions. Tough question: what must it have been like to come up with a group of guys, make an international reputation, and then decide to move on? I know it happens all the time in this biz, but The Stylistics appeared to be very tight as a unit with founding members staying together through think and thin. Russell is truly an icon and I'm interested in some of the wrestlings he must have dealt with to ultimately move ahead on his own.
Thank you and God bless,
|By Nosey (22.214.171.124) on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 04:18 pm:|
Hello FJT: I vaguely remember them being in an earthquake in Japan once. What was the situation? Any other close calls during their travels?
|By ZeeJay (126.96.36.199) on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 11:10 pm:|
Amy follow up here?
|By FJT (188.8.131.52) on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 01:11 am:|
The original (5) Stylistics were tight for a very long time. They were so young and everything seemed like one big party. When the first one had to leave the group because of personal problems things started to change. When another member had to leave for the same reason it changed again. Russell had always sung all the leads, did all the studio work, and in essence created the name and the style for the other members. However, the other members had little to offer to the effort. Some producers banned them from the studio because they could just not perform. Russell really didn't mind supporting the group, but when he started to lose his voice, they could not support him. He did it as long as he could and then he decided to leave, so not to bring the group down. They ran right out and got a replacement and kept moving on. Russell had to reinvent himself and after 30+ years, prove to everyone that he had not lost a step. They had no loyalty whatsoever. They are only interested in the money aspect. They have no concept of the quality and integrity of the music. The other(4) members will receive royalties for the rest of their lives for work that they never did. They did not sing on most of the original recordings. Russell just got tired of it. They were wearing him out. He had to move on. Now if you want to hear the original songs the way they were recorded, you have to hear his new group. They are truly dedicated to preserving the quality and integrity of the original recordings. They are awesome.
|By FJT (184.108.40.206) on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 01:15 am:|
They were in an earthquake in Japan in 1994. They had to leave the hotel because it was shaking so bad. They were also in a hurricane in Bermuda back in the 70s. They were knocked down by the wind and rain and blown down the street. Both events are unforgetable and unbelievable.
|By Chico Fernandez (220.127.116.11) on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 06:41 am:|
Who was that singing "You Make Me Feel Brand New" on the Craig Kilborn show 3/19/04
|By don (18.104.22.168) on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 09:39 pm:|
You are on the money, my friend.
I saw Russell with his Stylistics in LA. Russell has not lost any ground. He sounds as incredible as he did back in the day, man! And his Stylistics were smooth as silk with precison choreography. Piano Man played the keyboards and directed the band with class and grace. The entire show was air-tight. I've seen the other Stylistics with Eban Brown singing lead. I think Eban is a very good singer, and did a pretty fair job singing the songs. But, clearly, Russell and his Stylistics are far better. They had a much classier show, and were more dynamic in their presentation than Airrion and his group. Though many people try to compare the two, there is no comparison. The other group is only doing a Stylistics show. Russell Thompkins has the most unique sounding 1st tenor voice in the business. Just the fact that there are imitators speaks to how blessed the "Voice" is. Russell stands alone. Thank God he is BACK!
|By Isaiah (22.214.171.124) on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 06:51 am:|
Mrs. T., once again, dig the way you stand TALL in defense of your man, but Piano Man, telling folk NOT to attend another group's concerts is not professional at all... Those guys are trying to earn a living just as Russell is doing... They have families, and mouths to feed just as you and Russell do, and there is something very dishonorable about encouraging folk not support the nourishment of a child or grandchild...
We know that there is only ONE Russell Thomkins, but by the same token, there's only ONE Eban Brown, and they guy deserves a chance to perform as Russell was given his chance to perform... BTW Mrs. T., Russell didn't write all of those world famous Stylistic songs, nor do the arrangements on them... I think it a bit inaccurate to say that he "created" the sound, and did all the leads, too..(smile!) I aint mad at'cha, though...(smile!) I just think Russell deserves a more positive approach on the promotional tip, as he IS The Voice most prominently associated with the Legendary Stylistics... In fact, all of the negativity directed at the Russell-Free Stylistics might have the impact of compelling folk to go out and see what the fuss is all about...(smile!) Remember, there's no such thing as bad publicity... Think on it...
|By FJT (126.96.36.199) on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 11:14 pm:|
I agree with you that all the negativity needs to stop. In the long run people make up their own minds about who they want to see and hear. Everybody is entitled to their own choice. It is unfair to compare someone that has tons of hits and has been in the business for over 30 Years to someone who has no hits and has been in the business for maybe 7 years.
I have to disagree about the creation of the music. While others did write, arrange, and produce the music, Russell did sing it. Everyone that hears the music identifies it to Russell. So, he did create the sound.
|By Isaiah (188.8.131.52) on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 11:31 pm:|
Alright, Mrs. T., I'll concede that to you(smile!) What's even more magnificent than Russell's falsetto tenor is your extraordinary loyalty and devotion to your man... I am sure that with you at his side, he will find no obstacle beyond his ability to go over or get around... Keep on being the lady that you are, because the dividends far outweigh the debits...
|By Jackie (184.108.40.206) on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 01:36 pm:|
Ok Piano Man !!! You are As Wrong As Rain !! You all need to stop that!!!. Because of the negative publicity and feedback you give, Russell could inadvertly receive negative repercutions. He is doing great !! He sounds great !! I sense there is bad blood somewhere. Let sleeping dogs lie. I would hate to see a slander lawsuit filed. Don't hold any grudges. Pressure time and energy is wasted !! Let Russell do his thing !! Let The Stylistics do their thing !! Trust me. there is room in America for lots of concerts!! Russell just need to trust in God and he will do the rest.Have you all ever thought about that, all of this happened for a reason?. Maybe this was Russell time to move on. God has a plan for him I think. He gave him a special gift!!!.
|By stephanie (220.127.116.11) on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 01:52 pm:|
What I dont understand is that while most groups have a problem getting their royalties how are the other Stylistics able to get royalties on songs they didnt even perform in the studio..
Stephanie PS by the way Russell is the best I have always loved his voice its good to see him back I know the recording industry can take a wear and tear on you
|By Piano Man (18.104.22.168) on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 02:09 pm:|
Thanks alot for your suggestion,Yes bad blood is here..I am getting better at letting sleeping dogs lie...I wiil take your advice(SMILE)
Stephanie..I think it because of Russell Loyalty that they get that money..I will let FJT handle that question...
Peace to all
|By Jackie (22.214.171.124) on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 06:17 pm:|
I have never met Russell, but, he must be a unique man with a unique voice. He has a lot of caring friends and fans. Just let nature take its' course. Piano Man, It's going to be OK !!
|By IBY (126.96.36.199) on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 11:19 pm:|
You are right, maybe Russell didn't write those songs, but Russell's voice made those songs hits!!
but then again who could have sing those songs like Russell? Those producers & writers knew they had something special when they asked Russell to sing those songs. Thom Bell, Kenny Gamble, Maurice Starr, Teddy Randazzo & others, you might say Russell made their names famous. If you were to listen to other artists produced by these writers and producers, Russell is one of the most famous and long lasting one. He put their material on the map!!! You're as right as rain, Children of the Night, You are Everything & Betcha by Golly Wow are all repeated by other artist. Some sound good, while others didn't. But none of them can actually give you that good feeling or take you down memory lane like Russell. I've been listening to Russell's singing for over 35+ years and each time I'm impressed. I mean the man can actually make any song a potential hit. His sound, the pureness and creativity of his falsetto is truly remarkable & unique. I mean the brother is BAD!!!! No one can actually copy his style. If you were to listen to all of those songs on each Album, you would actually say anyone of those songs could be a hit record. Not many artists are capable of this defeat, Russell recorded over 30+ albums and they all sound GREAT!!. So Isaiah, who would you say is the lucky one.... Russell has a voice that would make anyone envious!!!
|By FJT (188.8.131.52) on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 11:19 pm:|
Okay, here goes. They all sang on their first hit "You're A Big Girl Now." From that moment on Russell never looked back. When he went into the studio with Thom Bell and many other producers, they simply did not want to use the other guys. If you listen closely, you'll even hear Russell singing many background parts along with several other talented singers who did many Philly sessions. He was very dedicated to the group back then and would do anything he could to keep them working so that they could take care of their families. If that meant singing all the stuff himself, he did it and didn't complain. He looked at is as a group venture. He was never out for himself. If that was the case, he could have left them 30 years ago. Many people tried to sway him from the group. He never wanted all the money. The money, including royalties, was always split five ways. At the beginning it was set that the group would get royalties and it still remains that way today, for all five. I hope I answered your question.
Your're right about the music business taking wear and tear on a person. It's unbelievable how they can use you up and then just throw you away when they're done. I'm glad you're a fan. I hope you can get to see the new group perform. They are awesome. These guys are really talented. No one would have a problem taking them into the studio.
|By Juicefree20 (184.108.40.206) on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 11:28 pm:|
I'm surprised that no one ever re-recorded Peek-a-Boo.
|By Eric (220.127.116.11) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 01:14 am:|
When you are in a singing group or band I believe it is a commitment forever how long the group wishes to remain together. Mr.Philly Grove you have to remember that when the Stylisitcs and the other groups hot groups of the Seventies such as the Delfonics, Chilites,the Ray Goodman & Brown and many more R&B or Balladeers did not make the mega millions bucks like todays Rap or so calle "NEON Soul Recording Artist are making today. So when a member or members leave the group or band does that mean that the remaining members should just fall apart or disband,and not continue to make a living at what they love or do
best. I believe the answer is "No". These Artists have bills,mortgages, car notes, college tutition for their children or grand children to pay. So if the remaining members wish to keep the group togehter without the leader singer I believe they have the right to do so. So I truly believe that Mr. Russell Thompkins Mr. Eugene Record of the Chilites have not been betrayed, because if they were not the member leaving they too would want the group to stay together and if that means going out recruiting a new member be lead singer or second tenor so be it. Finally I believe there room enough all the groups with new members or old members to cotinue about bring about the good music we all love.
|By Isaiah (18.104.22.168) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 05:57 am:|
IBY, wow, that's a statement that's bound to cause a bit of controversy, Russell's voice made the G&H's and Thom Bell's of the world(smile!) But, again, I am not here to debate that... My issue comes down to how Russell's handlers promote him - or give indirect promotion to the "other" Stylistics by raking them through the mud... I dig that there might be some deep emotional baggage happening, but, for the sake of closure, you've just got to move on from that, and shine your own light... Eric hit on what I've tried to convey in a more in-depth, visceral kind of way... People gotta eat, and a man will transgress against his own brother for the chance to feed himself and his family... That's human nature, and I am not shocked by this kind of thing when it happens... In short, I support Mrs. T, and her right to defend her husband - also, human nature, defending someone ya love(smile!) But I cannot say I dig what Piano Man has been doing in trashing Eban and the rest of the Stylistics... It is not like they hired the guy to sound like J.B. or something... He is doing the logical thing, the thing that got him the job in the first place, and that is trying to SIMULATE Russell and the REAL Stylistic's sound... You know, and I know that is well-nigh impossible... Russell is one of the most unique cats ever, and will always be the Stylistcs, so why spend so much energy promoting those other guys??? Someone must put their thinking caps on, and start promoting Mr. Russell Thomkins, instead of the other group, dig??? That is my point...
|By Nosey (22.214.171.124) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 09:18 am:|
Isaiah: You are such a voice of reason. I highly respect you for that.
|By PIANO Man (126.96.36.199) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 02:31 pm:|
Very good pionts,However!
I don't trash EBAN..As I said before,Eban is a good friend of mine.I always said that he's good a what he does.So my respect for him is huge!
I just says that he doesn't sound like Russell that everyone is claiming..That all i have to say negative about Eban..I know he is a good BROTHER..
NOW THE OTHER 2 MEMBERS!!
Yes I will always until I die speak badly about them..And what is say is the Truth..SO maybe you should listen and learn something from me,because I dealt with them for YEARS..So I am able to speak about them..What are you angry because I siad they stink,they cannot sing,and backstabbers,Well too bad..it is true..Until you can speak about them and you can share the truth with me,then I will listen to you.. But for now..take a chill pill and learn a few things about your BOYS...They are the one who will BS you,NOT ME...So let them make their living,just don't screw others around so they cannot make a living.....THAT'S THE OTHER CAMP!!!!!!!!
|By JACKIE (188.8.131.52) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 03:19 pm:|
PIANO MAN YOU ARE CONTRADICTING YOURSELF.YOU WERE BAD MOUTHING THE OTHER STYLISTICS TELLING FAYETTE NOT TO GO AND SEE THEM BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT THE REAL DEAL. EBAN IS THE OTHER STYLISTICS TOO !! IF YOU ARE HIS FRIEND I WOULD BE WEIRY OF YOU!! IF YOU HURT THE OTHERS YOU HURT HIM TOO!! SO WHAT IF SOME PEOPLE SAY HE SOUNDS LIKE RUSSELL. HE IS NOT RUSSELL. HE KNOWS THAT AND RUSSELL KNOWS THAT!! YOU ALL CAN NOT MAKE PEOPLE FEEL AND THINK THE WAY YOU DO BECAUSE OF YOUR BAD PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. IF YOU CAN NOT GET PAST THIS CHAOS, YOU WILL LIVE AN UNHAPPY LIFE. DO THE OTHER STYLISTICS CARE ABOUT WHAT YOU ALL ARE SAYING? THEY ARE STILL PERFORMING. STOP FOCUSING ON THEM !! DO YOUR THING!! YOU ALL HAVE THE POWER VOICE ON YOUR SIDE. STOP SOUNDING LIKE THE WEAK LINK. OK YOU ARE NOT DEALING WITH THE OTHER TWO GUYS!! TAKE IT FROM ME, YOU ARE GIVING THEM TOO MUCH ENERGY !!
|By Soul70 (184.108.40.206) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 08:27 pm:|
Would you explain the story of why Russell left the other group? I have been reading this thread and for the life of me I cant figure out the real story. You say Russell sang all the songs and you talk about Backstabbing by the others members.
Will someone please tell me the real story about whats going on in this thread? Thanks
|By IBY (220.127.116.11) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 11:17 pm:|
This isn't my story book, so scroll up about seven replys and you will have your story. FJT/Piano Man couldn't have said it nicer. But me!!! I don't owe those other "Stylistics" a thing!!! But if you want my personal opinion "THEY STINK". I'm saving my money for the real deal. Let me ask you people a question? Would you people pay big money to see a person imitate "Luther Vandross"? of course not!! You want to see the real deal. So don't give me that bs about a person has to make money. Jackie, get a life!! You do not have to degrade yourself for free.
|By Vonnie (18.104.22.168) on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 11:48 pm:|
Your name is not one that regulary posts on SDF, and my advice to you is TONE DOWN.
|By Piano Man (22.214.171.124) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 12:55 am:|
Jackie...Once again you speak and don't have a clue..You are a Lawyer? Well I wiill make sure I don't call you...(smile
As for Eban being Weiry of me,He shouldn't be..He better be of those other 2 members.Is that why Eban (at one time)calls me at time and get the truth about his employers..Well that sounds like to me he trust my OPINIONS about the other 2 members..So stop talking that Ying Yang..Once again I have much respect for Eban Brown.
As for the "other Stylistics" "care about what we are saying"YES!!!..I get it from their own people that they are SCARED!!! Why I don't know! OOO I am sorry I do,Maybe because they are Afraid that Russell will make it hard for them or just might put them out of Business...It is alot you don't have a clue about. You should stick to the positive things that you say and leave the truth of this matter to people who know them and wish to share it with you...What two sides are there? They don't have any..HE MADE IT SO EASY FOR THEM ,THEY SHOULD JUST CHILL AND YOU SHOULD FOLLOW THEM WITH THAT CHILL PILL and Leave this man alone...
I just left Russ and they are still trying some BS..ALL what this man has done for them and they are still starting BS...So yes they listening very well to what he and us has to say.....Bottom line for me is they are FAKES!!! PLAIN AND SIMPLE!! The basically did Nothing on the records(Airrion Love did a few bars)and Herb SANG ON NOTHING!!!(on all of the hit records)AND THEY WANT TO DICTATE TO THIS MAN ON WHAT HE CAN DO AND CANNOT DO!! Please you can have them,we wii fight them to the end....
So Jackie stick to things you know!!!!WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE,IT'S SURE NOT THIS TOPIC ON THE STYLISTICS..PEACE TO YOU..
HOLD YOUR GUNS FJT!!!!!!
|By Juicefree20 (126.96.36.199) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 01:06 am:|
I'm reading this & I'm perplexed over the back & forth. Now, Russell is definitely the man & I'm glad to see he's back. Everybody mentions their 70s output, but what about Hurry Up This Way Again, Give A Little Love For Love & Something's Never Change?
Now, I have no knowledge of the situation & what went down between the fellas. For the sake of clarity, could either Piano Man, or, Mrs Tompkins shed some light on what went down? I'm feeling some very bad vibes here & just for the sake of understanding, could someone please state the facts of the matter, so that we'll all understand the reasons for the hostility that's been posted here recently? Am I wrong, but didn't Airrion Love sing co-lead on a few hits? Man, this thread is kinda rough. I appreciate hearing from you Mrs Thompkins, please continue to shed light, as, many of us do not know the true story.
|By FJT (188.8.131.52) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 01:16 am:|
Piano Man & IBY
Thanks for your support. You two know I have this under control. We encountered ignorance on the other website and the truth won out. It will be the same on this one. People like Jackie need to get a life. Maybe she should represent the 'other' in court. They would be sure to lose! And we will fight the 'other' to the end. They damn near ruined our lives. As many people don't realize, they are the reason why Russell's not with the group anymore. Their loss, his gain.
|By FJT (184.108.40.206) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 10:00 am:|
Russell left because after 30 years of burning himself out singing all the leads on stage and in the studio he lost his voice. While he was losing his voice, not once did either one of the the remaining guys step up and take the slack off. True to their nature, they just kept letting him do all the work, without once considering that he needed a rest. Russell, after much thought, decided that if he couldn't sing to the best of his ability he would have to leave the group, so as to not be a burden on them. He left on his own accord. Contrary to some of the rumors, they did not fire him, he was not on drugs, and he was not an alchoholic.
After about 6 months of rest and exercise, his voice came back to perfect condition and he cut a solo album. All the while, Piano Man and some other very loyal band members, that the other Stylistics fired when Russell left, came to Russell with their support and the new band was formed. In the next couple of months some very talented singers joined Russell. One of them being Raymond Johnson who was a Stylistic for 15 years. Raymond also left the group because his sense of decency was in conflict with the other Stylistics. So now Russell has an organization that far exceeds the old Stylistic organization and he's back to get the name back to the status it deserves. Those other guys have dogged the name and he's back to restore it's reputation. He will continue to deliver high quality vocals and be true to the music. He and the "New Stylistics" are an organization that's dedicated to preserving the sound of the wax, in order to deliver quality to their audience. They're awesome.
|By JACKIE (220.127.116.11) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 11:53 am:|
THIS IS THE LAST COMMENT I AM GOING TO MAKE TOWARDS THIS NO WIN SITUATION. I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT PIANO MAN. YOU ALL SOUND LIKE A BUNCH OF GANG BANGERS. THEY DID US WRONG. THEY DID RUSSELL WRONG. THEY ALMOST RUIN OUR LIVES. WE ARE GOING TO GET THEM BACK BY PERSUADING OTHERS THAT THE OTHER STYLISTICS ARE FAKES, ARE TERRIBLE PEOPLE ETC. THIS IS HOG WASH. PUT YOU MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS. IF THEY DID YOU WRONG AND THERE WAS HARM OR DAMAGE, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT LEGALLY AND PROFESSIONALLY. I DON'T DETECT THAT. IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME YOU ALL HAVE BRUISED HEARTS AND EGOS. VENGENCE IS MIND THUS SAYS THE LORD !! YOU ALL HAD BETTER LISTEN UP!! WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE WHAT HAPPENED. LET THAT GO.!! YOU CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT NOW. IF YOU FEEL JILTED, KILL THEM WITH SUCCESS !! ALL OF THIS I HAVE YOUR BACK AND YOU HAVE MINE SOUNDS SO JUVENILE. FJT THE ONLY THING YOU HAVE CONTROL OVER IS YOUR MOUTH AND HALF OF WHAT'S COMING OUT IS MESS. YOU ARE FEEDING TO THE PEOPLE AND YOU NEED BACKUP. SOMETHING IS?WITH THAT PICTURE. I DON'T HAVE TO BE THERE TO MAKE COMMENTS ON WHAT I HEAR. THIS IS PETTY!! RUSSELL WAS NOT THE COMPLETE CIRCLE OF THE STYLISTICS. OTHERS WROTE AND ARRANGED THE SONGS. THE NAME STYLISTICS ORIGINATED FROM THE GUITAR PLAYER. RUSSELL SAID HE WAS THINKING ON THE LINE OF KEEPING THE NAME THE MONARCHS. THE GUITAR PLAYER ALSO WROTE BETCHA BYE GOLLY WA. RUSSELL SANG THE SONGS TO PERFECTION NO DOUBT!! THEY WERE A TEAM. RUSSELL LOST HIS VOICE, HE LEFT THE GROUP FOR THE BETTERING OF HIS HEALTH. THE GROUP PICKED UP AND MOVED ON. YOU ALL WERE ANGRY AND SUFFERING AND THEIR LIVES WAS IN A CONTINUING FLOW OF SUCCESS. RUSSELL HAS A BIGGER HEART AND IS MORE LOYAL TOWARDS HIS FRIENDS THAN THEY WERE TO HIM. THEY ARE LIVING OFF OF THE SONGS HE SANG, PEOPLE STILL ENJOYING THEM AND THEY ARE MAKING MONEY. ON THE OTHER HAND, RUSSELL HAD TO START FROM SCRATCH WITH NO HELP FROM HIS SO CALLED FRIENDS. THERE WAS SUFFERING, STRUGGLES ETC. YOU ALL WANT THEM TO FEEL WHAT YOU ALL FELT.!! YOU ARE WRONG, YOU ARE DEAD WRONG!! THIS IS NOT THE WAY !! YOU BOTH LOOSE OUT. FJT YOU THINK THIS IS GOING TO MAKE THE OTHER STYLISTICS LOOK BAD BECAUSE YOU ARE SEARCHING FOR NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC. YOU ARE GOING TO SHOOT YOURSELF IN YOUR OWN FOOT. THIS WILL BACKFIRE OWN YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATION. TAKE IT FROM ME. I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. PIANO SAID THAT THE OTHER STYLISTICS ARE AWARE OF THIS SIGHT. I HAVE TO SAY THAT I AM GLAD THAT THEY ARE NOT STOOPING TO THIS LEVEL. AGAIN YOU ALL SHOULD FOCUS ON THE POSITIVE THINGS. FJT YOU ARE NOT CONTROLLING ANYTHING. YOU COULD STOP THIS MESS BY THINKING MORE POSITIVE !!
|By FAN FROM LONDON (18.104.22.168) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 11:59 am:|
Well said FJT.
The other Stylistics should have given Russell a rest. But if it is not in their nature. Their the ones that lose out.
Russell is better of on his own and the fans will support him all the way.
|By PhillyGroove (22.214.171.124) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 12:18 pm:|
I just got back from vacation and WOW, what's going on here on this thread? I just want to thank you for your thoughtful reply to my question way up there. I grew up listening to Russell and the Stylistics, so they are part of the "Soundtrack of My Life." I am just grateful that he had the courage to step away to care of himself and that he's made a full recovery and is moving ahead. I take nothing away from the others in the group. I find it interesting to learn about the music business from those of you who have lived it. I was amazed to learn from posts by Bobby Eli that many of my favorite vocal groups had only their lead singers good enough to do STUDIO recording work. Your comments along those lines with The Stylistics back that up. I always wondered how I'd feel to be 18 years old, part of a tight group of guys who came up together, broke into the biz with a good act, started recording and were invited to sit out the sessions. Now I'm a bit more philosophical in life, and I'd just be grateful to still perform and pick up royalties.
God bless you. Someday maybe you'll share with us what it was like to be the wife of a Philly act that spent a lifetime on the road.
|By FJT (126.96.36.199) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 02:22 pm:|
No one can make the other Stylistics look bad, but them. They're doing a pretty good job at it, all by themselves.
I'm glad you gained some insightful information. I have a million stories. I will share them with you as the occasion arises. If you go to the site: www.soul24-7.com, you'll be able to pick up a lot of good information.
Fan From London,
Thanks. Russell does have the support of fans like you all over the world. Because of that, he'll be a great success with his new organization.
|By Piano Man (188.8.131.52) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 02:24 pm:|
Jackie Jackie,or should i say Jackass..I told you before that it is not us who keep the BS ongoing.We have for 3 years heard of of the negative things about this man.and IT WAS OK ! Well he now have people supporting him..Three Years they said whatever they wanted..NOW IT TIME FOR THE TRUTH TO COME OUT.I guess they shouldn't response,because they know the truth will kick them right in their asses. We are very quiet,we only speak when people like yourself RUNS HIS OR HER MOUTH and still don't have a clue..We are going ahead with positive things and Members..SO TELL YOUR BOYS to stop the BS..Because they cannot stop what God intend FOR US to do!!!! They are trying HARD...AS for doing something Legal..Mrs LAWYER..Russell don't want this to go to court,Because he wants to just go ahead and do Music without a fight with them..But you have 2 Menmber who trying to dictate his career,That cannot be! How can you tell a man who gave you everything,don't do this ,don't do that..You are a Lawyer,YOU THINK YOU CAN BEAT HIM IN COURT..they know they cannot,that's why they trying to con him...They aren't that stupid.HOWEVER you might want to try it.
In a nut shell ,Russ wants to go ahead and be left alone and work for something he created without any BS FROM THE OTHERS..YOU TELL ME WHO'S SCARED....
If you all want the real deal Listen up to FJT...she will not sugar coat it...and neither will I...Peace to you Jackie
|By JACKIE (184.108.40.206) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 03:17 pm:|
IF YOU WANT THE BS AS YOU SAY TO STOP, SHUT UP !!ALL I HEAR I YOU ALL. THEY CAN'T FUSS IF THEY HAVE NO ONE TO FUSS OR DEBATE WITH. AND NO YOU ALL ARE NOT QUIET!! YOU ARE RADICALS!! STOP WORRYING ABOUT WHAT THEY SAY. ARE THEY DOINGSOMETHING TO YOU OTHER THAN TALKING. TALK IS CHEAP. YOUR TALKING IS CHEAP TO ME. RUSSELL SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY LEVEL HEADED PERSON SO FAR. HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS CAPABLE OF DOING. YOU ALL NEED TO TAKE A LESSON FROM HIM . HE IS SURROUNDED BY SOME IDIOTS !! IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ALL HAVE A PHOBIA SOMETHING TO FEAR. YOU GIVE THE OTHER STYLISTICS TOO MUCH ENERGY. IF RUSSELL'S NOT COMPLAINING WHO ARE YOU TO COMPLAIN? HOW CAN TWO PEOPLE DICTATE ANYONES LIFE UNLESS THEY ALLOW THEM TO. THIS IS A BUNCH OF MESS!! I WILL NOT WASTE MY ENERGY ON THIS FOOLISHNESS. THE RECORD FOOLISH ON RUSSELL'S CD, HE IS REFERING TO YOU ALL!!
|By FJT (220.127.116.11) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 04:42 pm:|
Don't waste your energy. Evidently some of these people don't realize that we are Russell's voice. If he was on this thread they would really be offended. People that don't know him are trying to speak for him, that's why we keep coming at them. We got better things to do.
|By Vonnie (18.104.22.168) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 05:06 pm:|
I have no idea what is going on here! I wish it would stop though!!!!
|By Piano Man (22.214.171.124) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 07:14 pm:|
I agree...Jackie is a waste of time..
I realize that she's is a lawyer..so She is trying her craft on us..So I quit the game...Take your lessons eleswhere....
FOR ALL WHO WISH TO HAVE A POSTIVE CONVERSATION..I WILL NOW SPEAK TO YOU...
|By Juicefree20 (126.96.36.199) on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 09:47 pm:|
Hello Mrs Tompkins. I appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions. I think that this whole situation is sad. If Russell only needed a few months to regain his health, why didn't everyone simply chill until he could regain his vocal strength? What was the big rush? Who in the world was advising the other fellas? I would think that their earning potential would be greater with Russell, the original lead singer & The Stylistics most distinctive voice. Didn't they stop to realize that?
Who was the ringleader behind all of this? How in the world could they do that to someone who they grew up in the business with. Russell was their bread & butter, so to speak. How in the world did they look him in the face, while delivering such news to him? Considering that Russell was having vocal problems, what was their rationale for not sticking with Russell? How did they attempt to explain that to him? I mean, when you consider that they were together for what, 30 years, why was 6 months too long for them to wait to see if Russell would regain his vocal strength? Seriously, how in the world did they try to justify this.
That type of behavior would be cruel,insensitive & down right scurrilous. Who in the world was advising them in this matter. What do you feel was their motivation, as, I really don't understand their actions. I truly don't understand at all. I wish Russell nothing but the best & I would hope that somehow, they can mend fences. Although, after this, I guess that would be most unlikely.
|By Piano Man (188.8.131.52) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:48 am:|
Let me tell you that They had audition 3 people without his Knowledge..I know because I was there when the rehearsals took place.FJT can explain a little better.You would think that they would take care of someone who took care of you..However They were happy to see Russell struggle on stage.With that in Mind,He still went out there and tried to sing so WE COULD MAKE A LIVING. Can u think of how many families this man had help fed,And to this date he didn't and don't ask them for one PENNY,Which he is entitle to..Instead, he went away and got himself together and is back and strong mentally to fight this war that they created.They are still messing with this Brother..Don't worry he will be fine..OUR MUSIC WILL SPEAK FOR IT SELF.
He has gotten better singers and He carry the same
Music Director that was with him with the Stylistics...their(herb and airrion) imput to the shows were very small.Most of the live arrangements were done by Russell and Myself.They were just going for the ride for 30 years.He got tired and rolled.But he is ROLLING NOW...You must see his show..you won't be sad that you did.If I know I didn't do much to make the name as famous as it is ,I would be quiet also...(the other stylistics)... Bitter yes! God don't like ugly!!!
|By FJT (184.108.40.206) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:16 pm:|
The ring leader was Airrion Love. When Russell finally got to the point where he was insisting that they share in the workload, Airron knew that he and Herb couldn't do that. They were so afraid that they would have to actually step up front and sing that they looked for replacements right away. While Russell was wearing himself out, Airrion and Herb went behind his back and auditioned other lead singers. Instead of them stepping up to the plate, they took the cowards way out. It was, and still is, all about the money for them. They aren't interested in quality or professionalism. They are still delivering a show that they did 10 years ago, because they have no creativity to update it.
|By Juicefree20 (220.127.116.11) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 08:49 pm:|
Good Evening Mrs Thompkins & Pianoman!
Again, I thank you for bringing some clarity here. I'm very sorry & disappointed to hear what went down. I just wished that they had held on for a few months to see what would transpire with Russell. I'm just sad & disappointed about it. To hear that the fellas did it, shocks me. I could understand it if it had been a management type that tried to do that. It would have been low, but, that would involve business & not friendship. For it to be done at the hands of friends & partners, has to hurt tremendously. I can truly understand your anger, it would be very hard to feel otherwise.
I hope that everything works out for the best & may Russell have a Platinum smash! Thank you for taking the time to explain your side & may God bless all of you!
|By Piano Man (18.104.22.168) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 10:38 pm:|
Juice you are welcome..What city are you from so we can invite you to the show?...Thanks alot...
|By Juicefree20 (22.214.171.124) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 11:14 pm:|
I am from Brooklyn, New York. Don't thank me, I thank you for sharing your experiences & knowledge. If not for you, where else would I get the information? I think that everything will work out for the best!
|By Straw (126.96.36.199) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 11:13 am:|
Hello, Mrs. Thompkins & Piano Man; I'll try to do this as best as I can without it being construed as trying to obtain free advertising. Here goes ...
In the mid-90s I wrote a book about all of the classic soul artists of the early 1970s, including the Stylistics. I had interviewed Herb at some point during a concert at the Apollo to obtain first-hand info on the group. Mrs. Thompkins, you should have a copy of it (a purple paperback with the O'Jays and Emotions on the front cover). Within the past two years I have up-dated and expanded the book because (1) I'm a better writer now than I was in the mid-90s and (2) many events have happened to several artists (personnel changes, death, HOF inductions). In trying to find out why Russell was no longer with the Stylistics, "everyone in the know" on the NY classic soul scene (i.e. groupies) was very hush-hush, or I heard cases of drugs, pollups in his vocal cords, or that he just quit. I was told that they best and most tactful way to end that particular chapter was to say "Russell took a hiatus and was replaced by Eban Brown."
I'm thankful for your participation on this thread so that I now have the real story, and also thankful that Russell is back out here doing his thing.
Once my book on the Marvelettes has run its course, I'll publish the updated reissue.
|By Juicefree20 (188.8.131.52) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 01:57 pm:|
Hey Marc, I met you at a Felix Hernandez Rhythm Revue Dance back on June 9th 2001. I bought your book & you signed it. That was the last affair that I attended with my wife, as she died two days later. I also wanted to thank you for responding to an e-mail that you had sent me, with advice about finding contacts for various artists. I look forward to buying your Marvelettes book. I haven't seen the updated version of your book, what did you expand upon? Now, if I can get you to include Chapters on groups such as The Fuzz, Tomorrows Promise, etc, That would be great.
|By Soul Sister (184.108.40.206) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 02:15 pm:|
Good Afternoon my friend.
I never knew you attended Felix's dances... were you at the 1997 Aniversary "Night with the Stars" dance party?
I ám also very sorry to hear of the loss of your wife, you have my deepest sympathy and condolances.
|By Juicefree20 (220.127.116.11) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 03:16 pm:|
Good afternoon Sis. No, that was my first & last party. I may get to a few more before all is said & done. I thank you for your condolences. Maybe, I'll catch you at one of Felix' future parties.
God bless you & Jimmy
|By Piano man (18.104.22.168) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 08:20 pm:|
Russell will be at the BEACON THEATRE ,I think April 30 or May 1st..email me so we can get u tickets...click my name..
|By FJT (22.214.171.124) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 12:11 am:|
Hope to see you at the Beacon.
I do have that book. I'm looking forward to your updated version. If you are interested in an interview with Russell, to hear it from the source, then you should email him at: firstname.lastname@example.org. If you are in the Philly area you could probably interview him in person. If you're out of the area, then a phone interview can be arranged
|By dafever (126.96.36.199) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 03:43 pm:|
Between the threads here and the one at Soul24/7, I've gained a lot of insight about a group I didn't know much about. I really appreciate the history lesson. Knowing what I know now, I echo the sentiments of Truefansfromeverywhere, with folks like yourselves in Russell's camp, he's truly blessed.
FJT, not trying to sermonize, but Russell is blessed to have such a capable wife (Prov 31) and PianoMan, it's rare to have such a close friend. I'm sure he appreicates your loyalty, support and friendship.
You all keep up the hard work!
|By FJT (188.8.131.52) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 04:56 pm:|
I'm glad you got some truthful information between the two threads. You can sermonize anytime. Thanks.
|By JACKIE (184.108.40.206) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 02:33 pm:|
DAFEVER, THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY. WHO IS TO SAY THAT YOU ARE HEARING THE WHOLE TRUTH WHEN THERE IS ONLY ONE SIDE TALKING. THERE'S PROMOTING INVOLVED SINCE RUSSELL IS BACK ON THE MARKET AND HE WILL DO WELL. BUT, WHY DO YOU HAVE TO LOOK FOR A PAT ON THE BACK, BY EVEN DISCUSSING THEIR SO CALLED BAD MISHAPS. RUSSELL LEFT BECAUSE HE LOST HIS VOICE. MY QUESTION IS WHY DID'T HIS TEAM WANT HIM BACK KNOWING THAT HE HAD THE POWER VOICE BEHIND THEIR SUCCESS ? FJT, PIANO MAN ETC. ARE HIS VOICE AS THEY SAY. LISTENING TO THEM CONDUCT THEIR PROMOTION, I CAN TRULY SAY THEY PROBABLY HAD TOO MUCH VOICE AND JUST MAYBE THE OTHER TWO GUYS GOT TIRED OF IT. FJT, SAYS SHE IS RUNNING THINGS. JUST MAYBE THE OTHER TWO GUYS SHOWED HER SHE WASN'T!! JUST A REASONABLE THOUGHT!!
|By Piano Man (220.127.116.11) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 10:35 pm:|
Jackie welcome back.
|By JACKIE (18.104.22.168) on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 10:51 pm:|
NO BABY, I'M NOT BACK. THIS IS QUITE BORING. THERE ARE BETTER SIGHTS IN THIS FORUM!! BYE !!
|By Isaiah (22.214.171.124) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 07:38 am:|
Jackie, you are quite a powerful voice too, and I DO appreciate the things you've said in this thread as well... I don't have to wonder whether this thread would've long ago been history if I had referred to someone as a "jackass..." Yo' Piano Man, that was uncalled for brother - really... Like I said, I dig, and most us dig, that Russell Thomkins is da bomb, and that he was unfairly treated... I am thankful he's not on this thread defaming the Thomkins legacy by name-calling posters who've got a different point of view, or dragging the other Stylistics names through the mud...
I am not defending the other Stylistics, brother, I am clear and confident about a metaphysical truth my moms once told me about the things we do in the dark coming to the light... If it takes forever, your dirt done in privacy will make its way out to the public... It does not take putting folk on full blast for this to be achieved... I've enjoyed Russell Thomkins and the Stylistcis musical offerings for all of my life... I can do without the other Stylistics, but this thread makes me wanna see them cats do well... It's human nature to want to see the underdog succeed... Russell aint the underdog in this, because as has been pointed out, he was, and is, the MAN in Stylistics history, and ya can't be THE MAN, and the underdog all in one package... I understand Mrs. Thomkins defense of her husband... That also is human nature... But harping on what these other cats did for too long, man...it starts to sound like venom and vindictiveness... You said what you said about Airrion and the crew, now let's hear about Russell's crew, because I don't have a clue about the other cats who're now singing with him... Put them on full blast for a change...or is this just the Russell show???(smile!)
|By FJT (126.96.36.199) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 10:23 am:|
The new crew consists of vocalist Raymond Johnson who was a Stylistic for 15 years, Jonathan Buckson who sang with a group out of Philly called Portrait, and Edward Ranton who also sang with a group out of Philly called The Precisions. They are all vocally gifted and are committed to perserving the sound of the wax. These brothers sound like they recorded the original songs. They also have some very nice choreography thanks to the efforts of Edward Ranton, who also did choreography for the Stylistics for a number of years.
When Russell was approached by Chris Biehler, president of Forevermore Music, to do a solo album, he actually thought that he would end up being a solo act. The guys mentioned above actually approached him, one by one, and the rest is history. This group is dedicated to delivering to the fans a true representation of the Stylistic music.
While the background group was being formed, Piano Man, who was the musical conductor for the Stylistics for 15 years, starting putting together the band. The band consists of former band members of the Stylistics, Piano Man, Abdul Beatty (guitar), Lonnie Henson (bass), Rod Berry (horns), Henry McMillian (horns) and new members Keith Williams (drums), Adrienne Garner (pianos), and Gary McKean (horns). The have practiced faithfully and are precise in their delivery of the music. These are all talented individual in their own right. Any of them could have their own organization, but they decided to become a part of Russell's. Russell is definitely honored and privileged to have these people in his corner. This is a joint effort, not a one man show.
|By Piano Man (188.8.131.52) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 02:15 pm:|
I apologize to Jackie...I am trying real hard to stay postive ,however people wants B.S all the time.I am starting to just respond to the people who want information only.
Peace to all!!!!!!!
|By Greg (184.108.40.206) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 06:33 pm:|
Piano Man, that's the best way to handle it.
|By Isaiah (220.127.116.11) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 08:37 pm:|
Ditto on that Greg...
Piano Man, ultimately, yourself, Russell, and Mrs. T are going to win out, because what are the Stylistics without Russell????(smile!) I mean, if I were going to a concert billed as the Stylistics, and Russell wasn't on the bill, I'd automatically feel like I'd been jerked - and I don't care if they had Eddie Kendricks there as his replacement... That's real... I'm sure lotsa folks will echo that sentiment... We wanna hear, as well as see, the cat with the big 'fro and thrilling voice we saw and heard on all of those albums... Anything less than that would have the appearance of a fraud... That is the essence of what I've been trying to say... We, the public, are intelligent, and do not need to be guided by the unseen hand(smile!) Ultimately, we will gravitate toward the best, and Russell accompanied by your musical direction, is the best... Nuff said, pa...
Mrs. T, thank you much for the group insights... See, told ya that was all that was needed, as the assembled talent sounds mad talented juicy and tempting(smile!) Thanks again for that!
|By Piano Man (18.104.22.168) on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 08:50 pm:|
Peace to you both..
Thanks for everything..
|By Stylesfan (22.214.171.124) on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 05:50 pm:|
I am going to put this weblog to ease. Just as it has happen to the Temptations years ago, the Stylstics happen to have to have different opinion in each other. I have traveled with the Aarion group for a couple of gigs and they are truly well respected and receive sold out shows everywhere they go. Their showmanship is TIGHT and extremely organized. Just as Russell needs his bread and butter so do these guys. So when all of you "voice your opinion", keep in mind that everyone here needs to survive. It is good Russell can put his past behind him and start getting back to what he loves and that is the music we ALL in this weblog love and that is the Stylistic music.
|By Piano Man (126.96.36.199) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 12:42 pm:|
I am glad you had traveled with them.Here a question for you..Are they respected for the songs they are doing or the talent that they have?
They are singing what was created from Russell and his sound.It sure ain't the talent.If you take away the songs that were made by Russ and Thom bell and crew,you would know NOTHING about Airrion and Herb,THE ANSWER IS NO!!!..So the sold out crowds are done by many factors..
1-People still coming there because they believe Russ is going to be there..IS THAT WHY THEY ARE USING HIS VOICE AND SOMETIMES HIS PICTURE AS ADVERTISEMENT!!!...
2-The 70 soul Jams tour is Helping them ALOT!!
because there are many other acts on the bill.
People are coming to see the the whole package.
and with all the hit Records Russ had left them with I guess they would be the better of the Acts..(We all know they are good at Dancing)
Just a few things.You are right that everyone has to Survive,HOWEVER,TELL YOUR BOYS STOP TRYING TO HALT RUSSELL FROM MAKING A LIVING..I won't go into details YET about how they are trying to do it..BUT YOU AND YOUR BOYS CANNOT STOP IT..
NOW Since you know so much..you tell me if they can sing...This will tell me alot about you(lol)
I will be waiting for your answer..Don't want your opinion,I want facts....
|By Nosey (188.8.131.52) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 01:09 pm:|
Piano Man: Who owns the name? Also, don't forget the invite you extended to me. (-:
|By Piano Man (184.108.40.206) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 02:26 pm:|
I won't forget..email me..email@example.com
They are dealing with it right now...The other stylistics are trying to dictate things and they have no class or commitment to any agreement THAT THEY come up with..they have an agreement then change things... ...so they are full of shi..
|By Juicefree20 (220.127.116.11) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 04:01 pm:|
Piano Man, what's up? Hey, I sent you an e-mail, but it kept bouncing back. Anyway, I look forward to checking you folks out at The Beacon, later in the month. I'm sure that it wil be a wonderful event, I'm also sure that you will all be showed much love from my fellow New Yorkers. Hope to see you there!
|By gerald (18.104.22.168) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 05:08 pm:|
Hey PianoMan, how's everything? Give us a shout whenever you'll be in the Detroit area. A lot of people are interested. Say hello to RTJ and FJT for me.
|By Piano MAN (22.214.171.124) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 09:06 pm:|
Here it firstname.lastname@example.org
|By Piano MAN (126.96.36.199) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 09:08 pm:|
We are working on it....
Chicago also...stay in touch
|By Fan From London (188.8.131.52) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 11:17 am:|
When is Russell comming to England.
|By NY-DELL (184.108.40.206) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 01:29 pm:|
DID YOU GET MY E-MAIL ?
|By Philly-Cat (220.127.116.11) on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 12:35 am:|
Hey...I am a lurker and one who does not really post but all I will say is I just came from Russell's rehersal and he sounds extroadinary. He ran thru the whole show and I heard each song in the original key just like the record. He is in great voice and his band as well as the singers are n-sync.
|By Philly-Cat (18.104.22.168) on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 01:06 am:|
Russell put on one hell of a show on Friday in Rahway NJ....He sang all of his hits in the original key just like the record and his Stylistics Raymond Johnson, Falcon, and Edward along with Piano Man. They sounded extroadinary
|By STONEWALL (22.214.171.124) on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 01:45 am:|
Knowing that I am a music afficianado, I was with several friends on Easter evening who said they have a musical surprise for me and it is tickets to a concert. I thought, gee, DIANA ROSS & THE SUPREMES aren't having their reunion concert yet, who could it be? I know MARTHA REEVES is doin' Europe (to rave reviews). Well, guess what? It's to RUSSELL THOMPKINS & THE STYLISTICS. I told them all: "U Make Me Feel Brand New".
Bi the way, MARVIN GAYE & DIANA ROSS had not one but two very popular covers of RUSSELL's songs: "Stop, Look, Listen To Your Heart" and "U Are Everything". That those two superstars would choose two such songs, speaks volumes to the talents, appeal and durability of THE REAL STYLISTICS.
|By STONEWALL (126.96.36.199) on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 02:00 am:|
R.T.S. (RUSSELL THOMPKINS & STYLISTICS) Show -- It will be at the BEACON Theatre on Friday, April 30 @ 8 p.m. Also on the bill is THE MOMENTS (Ray, Goodman & Brown) and "The Ice Man". The Beacon is located on Broadway at West 74th St. in Manhattan, New York.
Ironically, THE STYLISTICS started the year after the 1969 Stonewall Rebellion.
|By NY-DELL (188.8.131.52) on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 01:03 pm:|
THE DEBATE REGARDING...RUSSELL AND THE "OTHER" STYLISTICS WILL RAGE ON. AND I'VE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT EVEN AFTER SOME OF US HEAR BOTH GROUPS THEY'LL STILL FEEL THEY WAY THEY FEEL....TO PIANO MAN AND FJT...FACE IT JUST AS BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER....SO IS MUSIC IN THE EARS OF THE LISTENER....
|By FJT (184.108.40.206) on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 04:02 pm:|
You're so very right. People have their own minds about things and that's okay. It's just all about the music.
For anyone who's interested, the Stylistics have been nominated to be inducted into the Vocal Group Hall of Fame for "You Make Me Feel Brand New." There are 4 categories to pick your favorite groups from: 1950s, 1960s, 1970s, and the 1980s. The deadline for voting is April 15th and the website is: www.vghf.org. The induction ceremony will be held in Sharon, PA at the end of April.
|By NY-DELL (220.127.116.11) on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 04:11 pm:|
IF THEY ARE INDUCTED.....I ASSUME THE WHOLE GROUP WILL BE THERE.....AND EVEN AT A HAPPY OCCASSION HOW JOYOUS CAN IT BE UNDER THE CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES ?
|By Juicefree20 (18.104.22.168) on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 09:22 pm:|
Good Evening Mrs Tompkins. I hope that you & your family had an enjoyable Easter. I'll be sure to cast a vote for The Stylistics, as I feel that the group is certainly worthy of such recognition. If all goes well, I look forward to you posting or e-mailing me a few pics of the event. I wish Russell well with the election & I look forward to meeting all of you at The Beacon.
Peace & God bless!
|By STONEWALL (22.214.171.124) on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 11:36 pm:|
RUSSELL should issue a statement as to which STYLISTICS besides Raymond and himself would be included in the induction ceremonies for the "Vocal Groups Hall of Fame".
Bi the way, in a related story, this is the first year that THE MARVELETTES were at long last finally nominated to the VGHF.
|By FJT (126.96.36.199) on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 09:55 am:|
If the group is inducted, it will be the original 5 members. It will be a joyous occassion, but there won't be any love lost between them. My question is, who, out of the 5 original members, will show up?
I look forward to meeting you at the Beacon. And I will make sure you get photos if they are inducted.
|By NY-DELL (188.8.131.52) on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 01:16 pm:|
I guess your right...same thing happened to the Temptations and they made the best of it. Making the hall is a great honor and has nothing to do with the present madness.... they are indeed worthy and I pray that they are inducted. In the event that they're not remember each of us has a little Hall of Fame in our hearts that stores away songs and artist that have had impacts on our lifes and and reminds us moments that we'll always cherish and hold dear. The Stylistics have been a part of many moments like that in my life and countless others....they're inshrined in our hearts forever.
|By FJT (184.108.40.206) on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 02:33 pm:|
What a nice way to put it!
|By STONEWALL (220.127.116.11) on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 02:47 pm:|
Dear Mrs. RJT:
What's up w/ the 5th original STYLISTIC? Is he in touch? If U know, e.g., would he attend the VGHF induction? "People Make The World Go Round".
|By Indigo (18.104.22.168) on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 04:34 pm:|
Hello to ALL, I want to say that I seen the Stylistics (with Russell) at a show a few years ago here in NYC. The first time ever in my life. There were other groups there that night also. I waited patiently for the Stylistics to come on stage so I can focus only on Russell. I loved every minute of it watching and listening to him sing. I really enjoyed him that night. (the whole show for that matter) All that night I heard him over and over in my head to the point where I had to play their songs before I went to bed. I have much love for you Russell. I look forward to seeing you again on stage.
|By FJT (22.214.171.124) on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 06:24 pm:|
Of the original members, James Smith and James Dunn are only in touch with Russell every once in a while. Russell has only seen Herb Murrell one time about 2 years ago, at a funeral and he has not seen Airron Love at at, in 4 years.
|By Juicefree20 (126.96.36.199) on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 07:03 pm:|
Hello Mrs Tompkins. Thank you for the kind words. I hope that they gain entry & I think that NY-Dell was quite eloquent in his assessment. I couldn't have said it any better. I know that there's a bit of bad blood at present, but, I have a few wishes. What I wish that the fellas could do is to transport their minds & hearts back to those days of glory & remember how it felt to be young, proud & a Stylistic. I wish that they could reach back, if only for a moment & remember the joy & happiness that they brought to so many as a unit. I wish that all of this had been considered, before the actions that led to the acrimony occurred.
Never in a million years would I have expected this to be occurring. Needless to say, it's sad. I don't know what the future holds, but I hope that there will be an end to the strife. I don't know what more to say, this whole situation feels as though there's been a death in the family. I just wish the best for all concerned & hope that the guilty parties at the very least apologize. That seems to be the right thing to do & I hope that occurs. I look forward to seeing all of you soon.
Peace & God Bless!
|By NY-DELL (188.8.131.52) on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 08:09 pm:|
I definitly agree with you...but in life sometimes, as I'm sure you know, what's done is done and no matter how much Russell, RJT, you or I, even Tyrone Davis(joke) can turn back the hands of time.. Beyond the anger I'm sure there is also pain, betrayal is a tough pill to swallow it kinda gets stuck in you throat...but it eventually disolves. Sometimes we go thru things because there's something else out there for us. I don't believe that Russell would have just up and left the group for a solo career (he already had that singing with them) but what I can see are some people thinking that they were losing a livly hood if Mr. Thompkins could no longer produce....If Mr. Thompkins was truly "finished" and wanted to retired and the other guys were up front about wanting to continue Mr. Thompkins could have done what Smokey Robinson did and pick his own replacement maybe even with the stipulation that...he may even return. But everything we're hearing seems to say otherwise. I'm just glad the man is back....giving us his music....I've seen the Mr. Brown and the other Stylistics, I have nothing terrible to say about him....I didn't hear him....I heard him mimic Russell...I wasn't even really paying attention to the background vocals. I will be at the Beacon, 4/30/04, to hear the real thing....after all it's a MATTER OF STYLE, and there's only one man who ever sang with the Stylistics that can deliver that.......Russell Thompkins Jr.,
|By Juicefree20 (184.108.40.206) on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 11:12 pm:|
|By FJT (220.127.116.11) on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 10:14 am:|
NY-DELL & Juice,
You two seem to have a pretty good fix on what's going on and what should have gone on. Russell's only mission since he left the group was to come back either as a solo act or with a new group of Stylistics. The problem arose with the other guys because they tried to stop him from working, which was totally insane based on the fact that Russell sang all of their hits and gave them 30 years of his life. All he has been trying to do is make a honest living. He has no intent of putting the other guys out of work. After all, we all have to make a living. Sometime in the future this will all resolve itself.
|By Nosey (18.104.22.168) on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 12:11 pm:|
To all: Truth pressed to the ground will always rise. Be encouraged. Right will prevail whoseever it is.
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