The Jacksons (The P.I.R. and Epic Years)

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Top of pageBottom of page   By Grubman Indursky Schindler (216.139.153.109) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 01:10 pm:

We all know and love The Jackson 5 Motown era, that's a given. But what about their Epic output ?

Right now I'm grooving to their 1980 million selling "Triumph" CD. Other than the hits "Can You Feel It" & "This Place Hotel", the other album tracks "Your Ways" & "Everybody" (a derivative of Mike's "Get On The Floor" from Off The Wall) slam just as hard.

Their 1981 "Live" album rocks !!

What other Jacksons album you remember grooving to ? Here's the discography to refresh your memory.

 1976   The Jacksons   Epic
 1977   Goin' Places   Epic
 1978   Destiny   Epic
 1980   Triumph   Epic
 1981   The Jacksons Live   Epic
 1984   Victory   Epic
 1989   2300 Jackson Street   Epic ( a very
underrated album at the time )
 

Top of pageBottom of page   By Livonia Ken (136.1.1.101) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 02:01 pm:

A week or two ago, Sony finally released a decent compilation of their Epic output on CD as part of their "Essential" series. Here's the track line-up:

1. Enjoy Yourself (Extended Version)
2. Show You the Way to Go
3. Goin' Places
4. Find Me a Girl
5. Blame It on the Boogie
6. Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground)
7. Lovely One
8. This Place Hotel
9. Can You Feel It
10. Walk Right Now
11. State of Shock (with Mick Jagger)
12. 2300 Jackson Street
13. Nothin (That Compares 2 U)
14. Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough (Live from the 1981 U. S. Tour)

Regards,
Ken

Top of pageBottom of page   By Richard Felstead (128.40.91.183) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 02:30 pm:

This was my favourite period of music from Michael and the boys. The motown stuff for me was ok, but their epic stuff I can relate to more.

On the Triumph album, there's a track to rival This Place Hotel ( Heartbreak Hotel ).

It's called Give It Up, have a listen to it, and drool.......... total class.

Blues Away
Even Though You're Gone
That's What You Get For Being Polite.

was the other track called The Measure Of A Man ?. ( something like that )

Great Stuff. :-))

Top of pageBottom of page   By KevGo (64.115.26.80) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 02:37 pm:

Grubman:
I have most of the Jacksons' PIR/Epic albums on vinyl from my teen years and yes, they did record some fine work during 1976-80.

Hearing Michael do some serious "riffing" on "Show You The Way To Go" sounded like he was having a good ol' time while "Find Me A Girl" is IMHO the best Philly soul record the Jacksons had done.

Ron Alexemburg, who was the VP of Epic Records, signed the Jacksons in 1975 over objections from his staff (who wanted to sign a British group called the Sex Pistols!). Ron said to me years ago that he felt that Michael would become a "modern-day Fred Astaire" when he brought him & the brothers to the label.

Kevin Goins - KevGo

Top of pageBottom of page   By DyvaNaye (209.212.74.216) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 04:23 pm:

During the Epic years was some of the best coming of age Jacksons music I heard. On the TRIUMPH album 'Give It Up' was the TUNE! I could go on about their work during that time, but I will add to the list of songs of my favs:

Time Waits For Noone
Can You Feel It
Blues Away
Show You The Way to GO - check BOBBY ELI on the guitar.
Going Places

Top of pageBottom of page   By Greg C. (166.84.225.49) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 04:34 pm:

I've always liked "Give It Up" on the Triumph album. It's rare to hear Michael & Marlon co-lead and it worked well. "Your Ways" was nice, too. Jackie's background fills behind Michael's lead were haunting and an interesting vocal background arrangement.

Top of pageBottom of page   By bigdaddyg2k4 (205.138.54.21) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 05:50 pm:

Their work during their tenure at Epic was a great time because they finally showed the whole world that they have matured both personally and professionally. I have their debut album along with "Destiny" and "Triumph" on CD. It would be nice though if Sony remastered their CDs for a better sound, because the "Triumph" CD could use a little boost in sonics, especially for "Can You Feel It", "Lovely One" and "This Place Hotel"; three standout tracks on that album. "The Jacksons" are at their best when they were paired with Gamble/Huff, MFSB and the arrangers (Bobby Martin and Bobby Eli did a stellar job for "Show You The Way To Go") and "Style of Life" is one of my favorite songs also.

Top of pageBottom of page   By b.soul (64.12.117.14) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 11:02 pm:

what songs did Marlon and Jackie sang lead on?

Top of pageBottom of page   By Greg C. (165.247.45.205) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 11:18 pm:

Marlon never had a complete song where he sang lead. He always had a line or two here and there.
Jackie always sang a line or two as well on the Jackson recordings.

Jackie had two solo albums, one on Motown Records in 1973 and on the other on Polydor Records in 1989. Marlon had a solo recording on Capitol Records in 1987.

The only other person who had complete leads on Jackson Family recordings was Jermaine.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Juicefree20 (68.161.49.152) on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 11:31 pm:

Don't forget about youngest brother Randy & his solo ballad: How Can I Be Sure. Also, he had a group Randy & The Gypsies.

Juice

Top of pageBottom of page   By Charise (198.81.26.103) on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 07:41 pm:

Ooooh! You all are right on the money with the Epic/PIR Stuff! All of the songs you mentioned are my favorites! I'll say it again, I LOVE YOU GUYS(smile!) Remember the single "Perpetrators" from Randy's solo effort, that was a bad jam, but it went nowhere. Also there is a slow jam on there where he duets with Karen White called "Love Thang", nice!!!


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