By MEL&THEN SOME (217.43.74.92) on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 05:03 pm:

any info on the
Gowen label that had the intruders on it from 1961ish.

MEL-O-DELPHIA

By Eli (68.236.53.71) on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 03:54 am:

Mel,

Gowen was owned by Charles Lotman who lived on Gowen ave(hence the name) and Barry Golder who was a principle in the Mainline label.

I remember going to Charles' home when I was a kid, right after the success of the Intruders' record.

By Eli (68.236.53.71) on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 04:05 am:

Other early Philly labels were :

Grand,owned by Slotkin, which was Jerry Ragovoys first job in the biz.

Teen/Sound owned by Nat Segal who later owned the Crimson label with Jerry Greene.

Gotham , owned by Morris Ballen.

Essex/Palda, owned by Sam Hodge

Maske--Larry Curran and Bill Massey

Val-ue-Felix Valdez-Doc Bagby

Melron-Len Stark

V-Tone/Len/ Palm/ Open--Buddy Caldwell

Don El- Don White

Fransil-Sil Scerbo

Arlen-Harry Finfer

Ry-An-Mrs. Ryan

Cuppy-Tony Messina-Sonny Cassella

Junior/Kaiser--Kae Williams

By MEL&THEN SOME (81.152.20.71) on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 06:27 am:

cheers bobby
more to follow

mel

By GrahamD (62.254.0.32) on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 07:25 am:

Bobby wasnt the Cuppy label ever owned by Bill Haley and his wife!!

By Weldon A. Mc Dougal III (68.80.162.3) on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 08:38 am:

HARTHON records, Barbara Mason, Eddie Holman, The Volcanos, Nella Dodds, Herb Ward, The Larks,United Four, Larry Clinton,The Twilights,Herb Johnson, these are some off the artist that was on Harthon records,Norman Harris Ronny Baker, Earl Young,played the music on all Harthon records, the lable was started by WELDON A. Mc DOUGAL III, JOHN STILES,and LUTHER RANDOLPH,
WELDON

By MEL&THEN SOME (217.43.32.117) on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 01:56 pm:

Right on Weldon
andthensome

mel-o-delphia

By Eli &paulie (68.236.53.71) on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 02:04 pm:

Graham,
I believe that haley's wife was an "investor" but Messina and Casella "ran t'ings" capice??
catch my drift???#$%^&*(

By Garo (206.245.141.3) on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 03:09 pm:

Eli, how about Jamie- the label that had The Kit Kats. Do you know who's playing on Let's Get Lost On A Country Road? Sounds like session guys to me.

By MEL&THEN SOM (217.42.211.249) on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 05:54 pm:

Bobby
Dorado records-mid-tempo dancer 1966 by Bonny Butler titled 'if I had a nickle'

also the early Hi-Lites or later known as the Chi-lites or Chanteurs on Renee records.

was the Whiz logo from philly?
know a philly stomper by gene vell on whiz.

cheers
mel-o-delphia

By Robb_K (66.81.29.11) on Sunday, March 21, 2004 - 04:17 am:

There was a Renee Records in Chicago, and one in Philadelphia (at one time, distributed by Lost Nite Records). They might be confused because the Philadelphia label pressed up "Young Boy" by Barbara Green (e), a 1964 Chicago Record, as an oldie, a few years later.

By Eli (68.236.53.71) on Sunday, March 21, 2004 - 04:25 am:

Garo,

The Kit Kats were an axcelent self contained band who played on theeir own sessions and Bob Finiz (RIP) of the Four Jays, was a very musical producer.

Mel, Im not that familiar with the output from the labels which you mention.

By Davie Gordon (213.18.222.35) on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 01:35 pm:

Mel, the Whiz label that issued the Gene Vell
record was distributed by Jamie/Guyden but I can't
remember where it's from - I'll see if I've any
more info on it but I've a feeling it's not a
Philly record.

There were at least four different labels called
Whiz - and at least four different Renee labels

Davie

By Flynny (213.122.111.15) on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 01:46 pm:

Any more info/stories/pics about the Don-El and Alpha record labels, Eli...anyone?

TIA
Flynny
raresoulforum.com

By Eli (68.236.53.71) on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 02:13 pm:

Flynny,
Don-El/Alpha/Chestnut were owned by C. Percy (Don) White, a realtor and cemetary owner from North Philly.
He was a nice guy and looked kinda like Harry Belafonte.

When Wally O (his "a&r man") got me my first session with him at the age of 15,my mom made him sign a promisory note for $20 because of all the times some of us have not been paid by certain people.

He brought the $20 to my house before the session!!

Chestnut, was his country imprint, as he also had a love of country music as well.
he recorded mainly at Sound Plus which was only a two track studio but menaged to get hits recorded there such as Mixed up shok up girl and Wonderful dream.

By Flynny (213.122.111.15) on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 02:24 pm:

Thanks Eli...any memories of the folowing acts:
The Celestrials, Jimmy Wallace and Ronnie & Joyce.

The label discographies are on my site: http://www.anorakscorner.homestead.com/index.html


Flynny
raresoulforum.com

By Eli (68.236.53.71) on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 02:31 pm:

Hi Flynny,

I've no info on the aforementioned acts.

By MEL&THEN SOME (81.152.20.66) on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 02:41 pm:

Cheers Davie

By Nosey (66.153.113.238) on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 03:41 pm:

E: This has nothing to do with this thread but I was trying to remember my tutors name who came to my home when I couldn't go to school because I was in a full body cast in 1964! Her name was Mrs. Slotkin! That is sooo weird because I was trying to remember her name just last week!

By Eli (68.236.53.71) on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 04:35 pm:

Nosey,

The guys name was Herb Slotkin who ran the Grand label.

His office was run out of Treegoobs furniture store on lancaster ave in the "Bottom".

Georgie Woods always ran adverts for Treegoobs and did some in store things there waaaaay back in the serious day.

By manny (80.58.52.235) on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 06:30 pm:

Hello again, soulful brothers & sisters!

I knows some other Philly labels (some of wich, i'm not sure if really are from Philly or not, only knows that some Philly artists have recorded in). Also i think are all from the sixties:

-Landa (The Blue Notes)
-Top & Botton (Brenda & The Tabulations)
-Jamie-Guyden (People's Choice)
-Phil L.A. Of Soul (People's Choice, Fantastic Johnny "C")
-Red Top (The Blue Notes)
-Instant Action (Blue Notes)
-Sheryl (Larks)
-Cross (Larks)
-Musicor (Intruders)
-Hi-Lo (Ethics)
-Swann (Three Degrees)
-Newtown (Patti Labelle & The Bluebelles)
-Excel (Intruders)
-Crimson (Soul Survivors)
-Gamble (Intruders)
-Neptune (O'Jays, Linda Jones, ...)
-We Make Rock'n'Roll (Mellow Moods)
-Tamboo

Peace & Soul Food

By Nosey (64.12.96.102) on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 07:38 pm:

E: I remember those advertisements for Treegoobs. I wonder if his wife was my tutor?

By Eli (68.236.53.71) on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 07:51 pm:

Nosey,
Could be. It was not a common name like
Arradashpionianovitz!!

By Robb_K (66.81.199.243) on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 08:50 pm:

Manny: Musicor was located in N.Y., but picked up groups and recordings from all over USA.